Amazing and theoretically future proofed, 25gbit is just no excuse for latency either. Crazy what happens when its done right.
I hate the AI slop images here, but the actual underlying article is still worth a read imo.
Yeah but it leads to the discrediting of the article itself. Was it actually written by a person or an AI just to fill more slop? Moment that we see AI Slop were not interested, thanks.
It doesn’t read like AI slop. This is a well structured essay that has a moderately complex point and efficiently explains and gives specific evidence for that point with citations. It even has a (highlighted for emphasis, near the beginning) note explaining to what extent AI was used:
This article is written by me and spell checked with AI. Many of the images are generated by AI and are mostly to break up the wall of text.
The images mostly actually do add to it by illustrating the concepts and being relevant. I’d only really criticize the first (fiber internet infrastructure vs water supply infrastructure) one for being a little lazy in having a duplicate text bubble, and the choice to format with text bubbles with arrows when the arrows don’t actually point to anything and it would have been better as bullet points or something.
Sorry but use of AI (even when originally personally written) has permanent red flags and doubts. If they couldn’t take the time to even google or photo edit some simple images for a blog post then why should we take the time to read it?
All I am saying is, having read it, I do not believe it was written by AI
Where I live in the US must be a geographical oddity. I have 2 gig symmetrical ftth service. Not shared. There are three providers offering similar service at my address. And yes, they all each ‘dug up the street’ separately to install their cables. Installing fiber via directional drilling isn’t quite that big of a deal.
No doubt what customers in Switzerland have available to them as written in this article is better. Don’t know what I’d do with 25 gig but it would be awesome. Just saying the writers should update their information on what is available in the US. Their info is from 10 years ago. They are making a perfectly valid point and don’t need the exaggeration.
I live in a city. There is only one cable provider (Comcast) on my street or DSL (slow). I get less than 1 gig, can’t remember what we actually pay for. Doesn’t matter, comcast wont fix it anyway. The article describes my experience pretty accurately.
Fiber isn’t coming to my neighborhood due to geography (there is a small lake isolating my neighborhood from the existing networks).
Before I moved here we lived in an apartment with a choice between two cable internet providers.
Not everywhere in America is lucky to have options like yours.
1.5 for $60 with the option for 2.5.
Lots to do with local zoning, own vs rent, and density. It’s very inconsistent except for poor renters and living in bum fuck no where. It’ll be consistently garbage there.
Paying $120/month for 800Mbs down/30Mbs up on standard cable in a los angeles suburb
What exactly would a person use 25 Gbit internet for?
I don’t use 25GBit per se. I have it available and am not limited by it in any way. It also includes a fixed /48 IPv6 Prefix where I can also control reverse DNS. I self-host mail, “cloud” storage, photo backup, VPN and private DNS etc. for my family.
It’s just that there is no need to artifically limit access to the internet.
You can also have 1Gbit or 10Gbit if your infrastructure at home doesn’t profit from 25 Gbit However their infrastructure stays the same as all their switches have 48 25Gbit downstream ports and 2 (or 4 according to the effective usage) 100Gbit uplink ports to their backbone. You will also pay the same monthly price if you choose a slower line as all their expenses stay the same (except the optics, which you pay as a sign up fee)
A /48 is a pretty standard prefix for business customers. Sounds nice though, you get it to your house? How much you pay per month?
their expenses stay the same
Sure, as long as they have nice peers that don’t charge them for egress. I don’t know how common that is nowadays, but it used to be common that you’d need to bribe some people to get good peering, especially if you have a lot of usage.
They have pretty good peering with many other ISPs and providers and also host cache nodes from the different content providers.
The price is 777 CHF per year since > 10 years (about 75 USD per Month). The bandwidth was increased from 1 to 10 to 25 Gbit while the price stays the same. You only have to pay a upgrade fee of 90 USD for someone to go out to the PoP and change the optics if you upgrade.
I think what you are talking about is consumer ISPs charging for peering (for example DTAG aka Deutsche Telekom is doing this double extortion scheme where they charge their customers and then charge netflix, meta etc. for their traffic too).
Swisscom (biggest ISP in switzerland) tried to charge init7 for peering with this scheme but init7 went to court and won that peering has to stay free (no charge for traffic) for net neutrality. This prevents that swisscom can push out competitors and make the market a monopoly. (writeup if you are interested about this scheme init7 calls it a cartel: https://blog.init7.net/en/to-peer-or-not-to-peer-kartelle-im-internet/ )
The price is 777 CHF per year since > 10 years (about 75 USD per Month).
They also have a pretty new cheaper option aka Easy7 which uses CGNAT (they are a “new” ISP and don’t have that much IPv4 space) and fixed IPv6 /56 with 1Gbit for about 50 USD per month.
I just wanted to point out that this market we have in switzerland (and a lot of it was fought for by init7 in court) brings us great options and also is future proof.
So. Many. Tabs.
Australia has more snowfields than Switzerland.
Switzerland is tiny.
25Gbit? From my room I’m lucky to get 2.5Mbit (from my nominally 300Mbit Internet due to the WiFi sucking)…
