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“Preaching to the mob” meme template based on SrGafo’s comic. First panel: Person standing on a rock: “I’m in favor of a genocidal ethnostate”
Second panel: Reaction shot of a mob with an assortment pitchforks and other weapons looks really angry. Each figure is marked with the German flag emoji.
Third panel: Person standing on the rock: “For european jews” Fourth panel: The mob looks really happy.

  • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    It’s literally that simple, but many Westerners who choose to be one of/on the side of the world’s villains don’t seem to grasp it and I don’t know why.

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    18 hours ago

    Aren’t every modern state are ethnostate ? I They just call it “nationality”

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      18 hours ago

      States can have different aims of the structuie their peoples should have. Liberal capitalist states currently state that they ignore ethnicity in the makeup of their peoples, as long as they can help the nation in the international competition.

      Nazi-Germany had a strong focus on having some sort of ethnic monoculture in the makeup of the German people.

      Israel strait up states that it doesn’t value arabic lives and favours ashkenazi jews. They claim to be “the one jewish state” and actively draw jewish people to settle there.

      • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        16 hours ago

        And then horribly mistreat some of them, e.g. those of Ethiopian ancestry (there was a whole forced sterilization scandal). They really just want Jews of European, North African, and Arab ancestry, and even then they prefer the Europeans.

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        17 hours ago

        Liberal capitalist states currently state that they ignore ethnicity in the makeup of their peoples, as long as they can help the nation in the international competition.

        If I’m understanding this sentence correctly, you are saying that modern state could exist without discriminating people regarding of their ethnicity. That’s incorrect, but first we may be clarified some definitions : their is no scientific differences between nations, ethnicities or races. Those word define group of people with an arbitrary definition. However, nations is usually used for a recognized group (by law for example), and ethnicities is commonly used to define people see as “primal”.

        Nations are social construct, usually based on genocide. Every modern state with a nation have disciminized, secregate or exterminate people who do not fit in the category of the national identity : gypsies, local minoritues, jews, …

        Their is a specific history of nationality in germany (“volk”), however even in the most “liberal capitalist state”, the nationality is somewhat linked with a national identity, a parent, or a place of birth. The only place that came in my mind that may not have a “blood” related access to nationality is the UK. However this a rare case of multi-national state, with some other way of discriminate people based on their nationality (i.ethe Ireland)

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.netOP
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          17 hours ago

          If I’m understanding this sentence correctly, you are saying that modern state could exist without discriminating people regarding of their ethnicity.

          No, I said that they state that this is what they do. I said that this was their claim. I didn’t claim that this was correct.

          their [sic] is no scientific differences between nations, ethnicities or races.

          That’s true. But the concept doesn’t have to be scientifically valid to be a reason for discrimination or privilege. Jim Crow and the Nuremberg race laws simply referred to what was considered race science at the time.

          Nations are social construct,

          True, but that doesn’t negate anything

          usually based on genocide.

          that’s sure as shit not how states present themselves, though.

          Let’s take Germany as an example: There is a high percentage of german mitizens of Turkish decent who have been living in Germany for generations. Many of those people have German citizenship. Sure, there’s still racist discrimination going on, but these people are german, as far as the state is concerned. It’s actually illegal in Germany to discriminate people based on ethnicity, so technically, only the passport should be taken into consideration.

          The meme is mainly based on how Germany presents itself.