I’m guessing based on your instance that you’re also Australian and at least part of your experience matches mine.
There are trans and queer folk in my social circles and I was introduced to them. No need for anyone to ask in that scenario is there?
Otherwise how someone presents is enough. A correction won’t kill anyone if I ever get it wrong.
The culture war has two sides as all wars do. It has the bigots and unfortunately people who get real upset when you won’t “say the line”.
No one asked, no one sought clarity, surely our culture must mirrors theirs! Not having people asking pronouns must be because I’m Nazi and not because everyone I’ve ever met used common sense on the topic.
Just attack a viewpoint immediately because “the line” wasn’t uttered. It is a culture war and I want nothing to do with it because it’s very un-Australian.
Anyone can be a mate, so the American culture crap can fuck right off.
I think a lot of the culture war outrage is made up straw manning.
I’ve never met a non binary or trans person in real life who actually gets mad if you make a pronoun mistake, as long as you correct and try to do better.
It’s less a culture war as it is a bunch of assholes harassing gay/non binary/trans people for their own amusement. Then there are a few rare and incredibly trollish chronically online culture warriors in the left who don’t really represent reality at all.
Well, sure. But there are two sides to the Israel-Palestine war, or Russia-Ukraine. But in both cases, it’s one side choosing for the war to happen, and the other side defending its own right to exist against hostile imperialism and aggression. Two sides existing doesn’t mean two sides both share the blame.
I have no desire to bring any foreign wars to our shores. Nor should you.
Depends on what you mean. If you mean literally, then yeah, duh.
If you mean bringing it up in Australia, well…we live in a global world. It’s important that we push our government to do the right thing. That means, at a bare minimum, not selling weapons directly to assist in wars of aggression and genocides overseas, and not inviting heads of state of genocidal regimes to be guests in our country. It also probably means sanctioning the countries responsible, or at least minimising trade with them where possible.
It certainly means not proactively speaking out as the first leader in the entire world to congratulate the genocidal regime and its closest fascist ally on their decision to invade yet another country. Realpolitik might be a thing that’s worth doing at times. But that could at the very least take the form of silence in such a situation, rather than active condemnation. Speaking out proactively in support of it is something every Australian should be ashamed of.
Pro Palestine protestors are not the people “bringing foreign wars to our shores”. The government did that a long time ago.
Not a lecture about Palestine. A lecture about our government, and why people who are opposed to the protests because of bullshit like “they’re bringing foreign wars to our shores” are dipshits who at best just have no fucking clue what they’re talking about. At worst, they’re actively defending genocide. Either way, absolute deadshits.
That’s not you, I hope. Because up until now I had thought we were having a fairly cordial conversation. But that response…well, it doesn’t reflect well on you.
I’m guessing based on your instance that you’re also Australian and at least part of your experience matches mine.
There are trans and queer folk in my social circles and I was introduced to them. No need for anyone to ask in that scenario is there?
Otherwise how someone presents is enough. A correction won’t kill anyone if I ever get it wrong.
The culture war has two sides as all wars do. It has the bigots and unfortunately people who get real upset when you won’t “say the line”.
No one asked, no one sought clarity, surely our culture must mirrors theirs! Not having people asking pronouns must be because I’m Nazi and not because everyone I’ve ever met used common sense on the topic.
Just attack a viewpoint immediately because “the line” wasn’t uttered. It is a culture war and I want nothing to do with it because it’s very un-Australian.
Anyone can be a mate, so the American culture crap can fuck right off.
I think a lot of the culture war outrage is made up straw manning.
I’ve never met a non binary or trans person in real life who actually gets mad if you make a pronoun mistake, as long as you correct and try to do better.
It’s less a culture war as it is a bunch of assholes harassing gay/non binary/trans people for their own amusement. Then there are a few rare and incredibly trollish chronically online culture warriors in the left who don’t really represent reality at all.
Well, sure. But there are two sides to the Israel-Palestine war, or Russia-Ukraine. But in both cases, it’s one side choosing for the war to happen, and the other side defending its own right to exist against hostile imperialism and aggression. Two sides existing doesn’t mean two sides both share the blame.
You said it yourself, we don’t need to ask for pronouns and it’s not normal behaviour.
As for the war analogy… I have no desire to bring any foreign wars to our shores. Nor should you.
Depends on what you mean. If you mean literally, then yeah, duh.
If you mean bringing it up in Australia, well…we live in a global world. It’s important that we push our government to do the right thing. That means, at a bare minimum, not selling weapons directly to assist in wars of aggression and genocides overseas, and not inviting heads of state of genocidal regimes to be guests in our country. It also probably means sanctioning the countries responsible, or at least minimising trade with them where possible.
It certainly means not proactively speaking out as the first leader in the entire world to congratulate the genocidal regime and its closest fascist ally on their decision to invade yet another country. Realpolitik might be a thing that’s worth doing at times. But that could at the very least take the form of silence in such a situation, rather than active condemnation. Speaking out proactively in support of it is something every Australian should be ashamed of.
Pro Palestine protestors are not the people “bringing foreign wars to our shores”. The government did that a long time ago.
Yeah thanks for the unnecessary lecture on Palestine.
Not a lecture about Palestine. A lecture about our government, and why people who are opposed to the protests because of bullshit like “they’re bringing foreign wars to our shores” are dipshits who at best just have no fucking clue what they’re talking about. At worst, they’re actively defending genocide. Either way, absolute deadshits.
That’s not you, I hope. Because up until now I had thought we were having a fairly cordial conversation. But that response…well, it doesn’t reflect well on you.