White, straight-presenting, not obviously something other than christian, and are doing a very standard business trip or holiday trip: you’re probably ok.
Anything else and the risk goes up. Even something like taking a trip that starts in Seattle, goes up to Vancouver and then comes back via Canadian flights might be suspicious enough to cause problems.
Probably 99% of the people who go to the World Cup will be fine. Even the ones who are non-white, or are obviously muslim or something. But, I’m positive that with the thousands of people making the trip, there will be tens, maybe hundreds who the Palantir AI and/or racist ICE identify as suspicious, and they will be hit with real trouble.
Probably 99% of the people who go to the World Cup will be fine. Even the ones who are non-white, or are obviously muslim or something.
I have 2 muslim friends who travel to the US at least once a month for business. Obvious visible minorities, obvious muslims.
I cant fathom how they have the confidence to do this but anecdotally, they’ve never had an issue. It’s definitely one of those, high damage, low probability things in terms of risk management.
Probably 99% of the people who go to the World Cup will be fine.
Brazil has a huge Football (USA Soccer) scene and makes up a large percentage of World Cup tourism. Being dark-skinned Hispanics, they are exactly who ICE targets.
Yep. They’re also typically loud and expressive, not quiet and submissive. So, if they encounter ICE they’re not likely to just play nice and deescalate.
I can’t imagine this World Cup happening without at least a dozen Brazilians disappearing into ICE detention.
A dozen will be an understatement. The tournament games span over a week. I think 100 is a closer figure, if FIFA doesn’t get their wish of ICE going on ‘vacation’.
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OFC I fully defend Brazilians or anyone profiled by ICE being “not quiet and submissive”. I just want to clarify that because the wording of your comment made me think of how people of color in social and workplace events are more often branded with negative terms than white male counterparts.
oh yeah, no one should be coming to the US right now.
The Finnish team is doing it’s part and not coming
But I want to see a friend :(
They should go to you.
Hehe I wish, but they’re sick so I’ll try
Tbh it’ll all depend on the colour of your skin. If you’re white it will probably be ok. Anything else will mark you for arrest and/or deportation.
Please be safe.
White, straight-presenting, not obviously something other than christian, and are doing a very standard business trip or holiday trip: you’re probably ok.
Anything else and the risk goes up. Even something like taking a trip that starts in Seattle, goes up to Vancouver and then comes back via Canadian flights might be suspicious enough to cause problems.
Probably 99% of the people who go to the World Cup will be fine. Even the ones who are non-white, or are obviously muslim or something. But, I’m positive that with the thousands of people making the trip, there will be tens, maybe hundreds who the Palantir AI and/or racist ICE identify as suspicious, and they will be hit with real trouble.
I have 2 muslim friends who travel to the US at least once a month for business. Obvious visible minorities, obvious muslims.
I cant fathom how they have the confidence to do this but anecdotally, they’ve never had an issue. It’s definitely one of those, high damage, low probability things in terms of risk management.
Brazil has a huge Football (USA Soccer) scene and makes up a large percentage of World Cup tourism. Being dark-skinned Hispanics, they are exactly who ICE targets.
Yep. They’re also typically loud and expressive, not quiet and submissive. So, if they encounter ICE they’re not likely to just play nice and deescalate.
I can’t imagine this World Cup happening without at least a dozen Brazilians disappearing into ICE detention.
A dozen will be an understatement. The tournament games span over a week. I think 100 is a closer figure, if FIFA doesn’t get their wish of ICE going on ‘vacation’.
tangent on above comment's wording
OFC I fully defend Brazilians or anyone profiled by ICE being “not quiet and submissive”. I just want to clarify that because the wording of your comment made me think of how people of color in social and workplace events are more often branded with negative terms than white male counterparts.
I’m white as fuck 👌