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    I tried for 2 years to get my kid into Star Wars using the chronological order, and I could not get him through Episode 1 without him knowing WHO Darth Vader was. Finally decided to go in the release order, and he was hooked from the first scene. Watched all of them now.

    Chapter 4 is the best starting point.

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      Chronological order is for superfans who have already seen it all, probably multiple times. Always watch release order for authenticity, even for remakes. Because no matter what people say, newer stuff is still based on older stuff and fan service and homages and neat little details are lost without context.

      Sw ep4 is not really ep4, it’s the first and original, and skipping ahead in the story by over 20 years is weird and wouldn’t make any sense. What is this shiny thing people keep waving around? How does any of this work? What is a jed eye? Is that a MONSTER? What is that little green footsniffer creepy puppet thing? It’s HOW OLD?!

      And especially for ep1, you might think these two random broody guys are bad guys, even after you get told their names.

      There’s a huge art to telling a story to people that already know the outcome, and it’s very different from telling a story to people who DON’T know the outcome. Who is this kid and why does the story revolve around him? Does he actually become somebody? Why is everybody older than me viewing it with dread and love at the same time?

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      Release order is always the best viewing order. Machete order and other alternative orders are only for rewatches.

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        I’ve done this for my kids a few times (I have four kids; it’s… expensive) and Machete order is great because it totally preserves both the Empire surprise and fosters a bit of a surprise with the “Sith Lord” reveal in RotS while also making the Leia reveal something that doesn’t feel tacked on (throughout the entirety of RotS they speak with the assumption that Padme only has one baby in there–how a society with self-aware droids and interstellar travel can’t figure out that there’s two babies in one uterus is a conversation for another time). Plus it makes Luke a more complex character in Jedi when you return to him and he’s in black and choking out guards like you just watched his dad do.

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    This is a large galaxy with thousands upon thousands of planets and over 100,000 years of documented history…

    …so we’re going to focus on only a 60 year period and everything revolves around a dozen or so characters, most of which are related

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    This particular story is best read in the following order: Chapter 4, Chapter 5, Chapter 1 (optional), Chapters 2-3, and finally Chapter 6. There’s a fan-fiction sequel with Chapters 7-9, but our class won’t be looking at those.

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    Now that I think about it, The Voyage Home might have been the first film in the series that I ever saw…

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      its a much better movie when you understand Jar Jar is at least sith acolyte. maybe also a sith master.

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        so my wife, when we were first dating, she did not understand that i know how to enjoy cinema. any cinema. so she gave me a challenge date to watch twilight. she thought she was subjecting me to something awful but i’ve seen crossroads and glitter. edit wait shit don’t tell her i said that about glitter she loves mariah. so right away i decide that every word a vampire says is a pickup line from some dude who’s a hundred years old and does NOT understand women and i’m giggling through the entire thing. my wife does not understand how i’m actually enjoying this travesty of a film. finally she asks me why i’ve been giggling half the film and i explain. she gives me one of those long looks and then says that now she can’t watch twilight the same anymore. and then we spend the rest of the film giggling together.

        my point is, some headcanons make the films better.