Fun fact, posting a link to this article got me banned from the Germany subreddit:
Sounds like an appropriate response.
welcome to lemmy :)
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I understand your point, but why post it in a privacy sub?
I was going to say that too. Doesn’t seem like the right place to post it.
I am seriously baffled… that 2 people would think an unwarranted general demand for ID papers without probable cause and then recording the data in a centralised tracking database is not relevant to privacy. How on earth do you arrive at that?
Is it that you don’t care about being physically tracked yourself, and from there conclude it’s not a privacy issue? Do you have something like Snapchat broadcasting your realtime physical location anyway?
I must say it’s alarming how the basic concepts of privacy has gotten lost on the younger generations to such extent. The modern day global concept of privacy is to a very large extent driven by papers being demanded in Germany in the 1940s. If it were not for 1940s Germany, privacy communities in Lemmy very well might not even exist today.
Getting ID’d when passing a border is not a privacy issue. You are trippin.
Also legally speaking, they cant just track you. What they are doing is just registering your entrance to the country on a central databank.
Bro, I am full on privacy but if you are crossing borders, it is very normal to get checked for ID and all, normally you wont evem be able to go into a cou try before you give them all your details on why and what you are doing there… This crossing borders without chhecking is relative new and sadly will be deminished by this stupid new government we will have im germany soon…
Bro, I am full on privacy but if you are crossing borders, it is very normal to get checked for ID and all,
No it is not normal to arbitrarily check ID at a Schengen border crossing.
How could this possibly be unrelated to privacy?
They were not just looking at IDs to look for Turks (which IIRC is the reason they are doing it)… they were scanning everyone’s ID into a centralised system to generally track people’s movement – even IDs issued by neighboring countries.
Privacy is about control. In this case, the privacy invasion reduces freedom of movement (control over your own travel).
do you happen to have a photo of the incident? i would be curious
i have been ID checked before when travelling from italy to austria by train. As i’m 20-30 year old and was travelling alone, i suspect it was about curbing migration or sth. But they didn’t register it in a database.
Not sure why I would need a photo for what has become a common practice in Germany. Taking pics of cops just risks triggering aggression so I would need good reason to do it.
I can totally understand Germany feeling obligated to help relatives of a population they genocided. But helping them while they genocide other people should be a red line.
Yeah the German attitude of “we genocided these people in the past therefore it’s our obligation to help them genocide other people” is pretty odd.
Please note not every German shares the same opinion on topics.
Yeah why our government sends weapons despite recent developments is beyond me. The Israeli government crossed the red line over a year ago. Instead of focussing on Hamas and saving the hostages, they decided to commit war crimes.
Dude where the fuck am I supposed to even migrate to?
Austria? Maybe Switzerland? Maybe Ireland…
If you are against the existence of Israel, support Hamas or against a two state solution, don’t come to Germany or Austria. You wont be welcome here.
Btw. Most Germans support a Palestinian state and an end to the war, but also Israel’s right to existence.
Germany are not the moral bastions you are portraying them as. Calling human rights supporters terrorists while you cosy up to genocidal regimes is plainly dishonest.
