• _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    Listen here, you little shit. He literally interviewed for an article and said he opposed BLM because they were an inconvenience to him. And I don’t give a shit what he’s saying now to throw off people, I’ve seen him say zio shit on more than one occasion, and you don’t just suddenly give up being a right-wing twatwaffle.

    Jordan Lund is a vile, racist, zionist piece of shit, and anyone who defends or supports him is sitting at the table with him and accepts those labels for themselves.

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      1 month ago

      What a coherent and sensible response.

      I guess that’s probably your best option though. What else are you supposed to say? You can’t exactly say the screenshot is fake, or that what it shows isn’t blatantly contradictory to what you’re trying to say. I guess just “listen here, you little shit” is about the best response you have available lol. I think most of the time, you’ll get some hostility back in return, and then it just becomes “oh God people are yelling at each other,” and the factual message gets muddled up.

      I am still very curious why you (and a bunch of the other “usual suspects” accounts in these comments) are so determinedly lying about this. You clearly don’t actually care about the article itself, or else you would be upvoting it, commenting under it, generally… I don’t know, something. But instead you are over here, determinedly creating the fiction where Jordan Lund censored it. Why?

      • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 month ago

        And here you are, just ignoring the fact Jordan is a racist piece of shit that’s on record defending Israel, because he hasn’t deleted one article, so clearly that is proof everyone is lying and out to get him!

        It’s pretty obvious to me that you’re as much of a racist piece of shit as he is, if you’re this hellbent on defending him. And I don’t argue with people John Brown would have shot.

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      1 month ago

      No, I oppose BLM for two reasons:

      1. The protests where I live serve no purpose as everyone here agrees with them. They’re preaching to the choir to make themselves feel better instead of taking the protests where it might actually matter.

      2. They only care when the Black Life in question is taken by a white cop. 9 year old girl killed in a gang crossfire? BLM is fucking silent. Either BLM or they don’t. Be honest about it.

      Hear about Kaylah Love? No, of course not, because BLM doesn’t give two shits about Kaylah Love.

      https://abc7chicago.com/post/kaylah-love-death-loved-ones-hold-vigil-honor-16-year-old-girl-killed-east-garfield-park-chicago-police-investigating/16074414/

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Sorry dude but that’s a pretty bad take. BLM was never about gang violence. It was about systemic racism and murder of black people by police. The idea being Black Lives Matter (too) because noone was giving a fuck about the disproportionately large number of black people murdered by police without repercussion or the slightest media coverage.

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        They only care when the Black Life in question is taken by a white cop. 9 year old girl killed in a gang crossfire? BLM is fucking silent. Either BLM or they don’t. Be honest about it.

        BLM was a response to cops of all races taking the lives of black people, not just white cops. Your example is of someone who was murdered, but not by the cops.

        You should try reading the news more.

      • This is a frankly bizarre take. BLM is a protest aimed at the government (specifically the police apparatus). They already investigate gang criminality (your link specifically mentions that the Chicago PD is investigating). So as far as BLM is concerned, that’s the appropriate response and the government is doing its job? What is there to protest here, it’s not like gangs are going to go “oh shit look BLM is protesting, better stop all our criminal activities”. You should feel sympathetic to them not protesting this, because the protest would be heard by people who already agree and by people who don’t care (see your own “preaching to the choir”-argument).

        BLM protests disproportionate police action usually aimed at black people, because it’s not how they think the government should act, nor do they react appropriately afterwards. That’s their pretty singular purpose.

        Your argument boils down to a strange combination of whataboutism and a strange attempt at gatekeeping “standing up for the civil rights of minorities”, which I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen someone else attempt tbh.

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          Find a story where BLM is remotely interested in a death not caused by a white cop. It’s cool, I’ll wait.

          Should they change their name to “BLM*”?

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                Whataboutery much? You are accusing BLM about not raising issues of deaths caused by a gangwar. Guess what, they also don’t raise the issue of melting polar caps. 🙄

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                  No, but melting polar caps doesn’t directly kill black people. Well, not yet, give it another 10 years.

                  All I’m saying is, if your mission statement is “Black Lives Matter” then it has to be ALL black lives. Not just the ones that fit your agenda.

                  Flip it around, ACAB - yeah, pretty much true across the board.

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                    All I’m saying is, if your mission statement is “Black Lives Matter” then it has to be ALL black lives.

                    Because Jordan Lund said so?

                    You are unbelievably arrogant.

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            There’s no walking back for you, is there? You just dig in when confronted. I like that, it’s more meme-able.

            And it makes for good receipts when you end up called out in this comm again next week, and I get to remind everyone how shitty you are. I gotta post these on Mastodon, they’re golden.

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              I have nothing to apologize for because what I’m saying is 100% true. BLM doesn’t give two shits about black lives unless the perp is a white cop. Full stop.

              Where are the “say her name” memorials for Kaylah? They don’t exist. Because they don’t care.

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                God damn, you’re on fire. You have the typical liberal racism, but you have the stubbornness of the alt-right. Lemme ask you this, how do you feel about Jews? Not Israel, I mean Jews specifically.