I eat meat, but man do I see some dumb shit posted on that com. Apparently I called someone too hard on their bullshit. Hardcore carnists sure are fucking delicate. Maybe they should get a little more fiber in their diet.

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    3 months ago

    Yeah, the unscientificness annoys me the most.

    I am happy to discuss the literature at any time with any one. Please enumerate your standards of acceptable evidence and I’ll be happy to discuss in detail.

    Doctors have been practically pleading for people to eat more veggies for the past few decades.

    Very true! But also not supported by evidence (i.e. only weak observational epidemiology that cannot establish cause and effect). In fact, the general population has responded to these calls - saturated fat has been replaced by seed oils, the standard diet is already 75% plant based, yet outcomes are getting worse and worse and worse (diabetes, cancer, obesity, hypertension, etc). If something isn’t working we can either blame people for not doing it hard enough, or adjust the hypothesis.

    That said - if you find epidemiology compelling: https://discuss.online/post/40722935 - Animal Based Food Beneficial Epidemiology List

    Granted, not everyone’s the same. I know a guy who’s allergic or intolerant to so many things that a largely meat-based diet is his only real option. Having a support group for such cases is cool.

    In the carnivore space this would count as a testimonial or case study, which is exactly what we discuss in the community. However, you dismissed this type of data as ‘unscientificness’… either testimonials are evidence, or you have to ignore your friend’s experience.

    a lot of the posts in that sub talk about pseudo-scientific data, completely ignoring that it is far away from scientific consensus.

    science isn’t litigated by consensus - we have a hypothesis we can test, and it works or it doesn’t.