• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 天前

    I don’t understand… can it not do that while also tasting good? Is that not exactly what good coffee is supposed to be?

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    Caffeine is very slightly negatively correlated with darkness of the roast. Dark roasts tend to have less caffeine than light roasts.

    Also, drip/pourover/percolator/press coffee tends to have more caffeine per serving than espresso-based drinks. The longer steep time extracts more of the caffeine, and serving sizes tend to just be so much larger to overcome the higher caffeine per unit volume of espresso.

    So in reality, the lighter pourover coffee where you have the roaster or barista talking about tasting notes tends to be higher caffeine than the dark, densely brewed bitter stuff.

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      Basically this, although from what I remember the caffeine difference between light and dark roast is only about 2%.

      It is also worth noting that for most people (due to the standard western diet), their daily coffee is one of the few appreciable sources of polyphenols they’re likely to get, and lighter roasts are a better source of that as well.

      Aaaand if that weren’t enough, dairy cancels out the health benefits of coffee by reducing bioavailability.

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      My understanding is that dark roast is just as strong or even stronger by weight, but the longer roast makes it lighter for the same volume. Since people tend to use scoops to measure out their coffee the lighter blends end up stronger.

      But if you measure by weight instead, that’s no longer the case.

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    6 天前

    What you get: coffee that walks into your colon, flips a table over, and says, “Get up. We have responsibilities.”

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    6 天前

    Is it so bad to have both?

    I mean plenty of caffeine AND a good flavor without .25 lbs of sugar and 50% half and half is pretty nice…

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      7 天前

      What about the people that make it for themselves because they just like it that way?

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        6 天前

        I would argue you only like it that way due to exposure to other mis guided coffee drinkers and if you had a chance to reset your tastes you’d come to love a nice light to medium roast with hints of cherry and caramel.

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          I appreciate the sentiment of your comment. For real, this is worth asking.

          That being said, I know what I like, and I’m, relatively speaking, also a bit of a coffee snob. Don’t worry, I’m not some bumpkin drinking Nescafe.

          I love a good low acid French Roast. Preferably African origin. Rich vanilla, deep roasty notes, chocolate, tobacco, leather, maybe cinnamon, slightly to moderately bitter. The same is true of whiskeys I like and beers I like or brew for myself. It’s a flavor profile my partner and I both enjoy.

          Right now, I have a 5lb bag of a co-op direct whole bean that’s described as:

          Roast: Dark

          Acidity: Soft

          Body: Smooth

          Aroma: Toasted Walnut, Vanilla, Caramelized Sugar

          Tasting Notes: Molasses, Smoky, Chocolate Brownie

          Not a French roast, but my partner likes this one and we can agree on it. It’s as light bodied as I like, but I like it a lot. Always drink our coffee black. 8/10 to me. We tested 3 different dark roasts to get to this one.

          And to your specific suggestion, a month ago a friend that went to Ecuador and sent us 500gr of beans also direct from a co-op as a gift. Very nice of her. Light with cherry, slight caramel, and bright flavors. I fucking hate it. So much. Tastes like open sewers smell to me: sweet-sour ethyl esthers and funk. I understand that, objectively, it’s good coffee. It’s just not for me. I genuinely dread having it tomorrow morning just to get rid of it. I’ll drown it in goat milk and choke it down. My partner thinks it’s just ok.

          We also both hate more than minimally peated scotch, and think people that claim to like scotch are victims of marketing and pressure from other douchebags, or have brain damage.

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            6 天前

            Right on, honestly that doesn’t even sound like the mud I meant in my original post. I enjoy a dark roast too with those toasty notes. I used the light cherry caramel example to add effect since the person / coffee I’m talking about is the person who fills the basket to the brim of folgers dark roast, leaves it on the burner and drinks black burnt coffee all day.

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              Yeah, but, I would rather drink that for the rest of my life than drink Ecuadorian cherry whatever stuff we have right now for a year.

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      Hard disagree. I am a weak eepy little boy and I need a strong, girthy kick in the ass to start my day. Anything less won’t do

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        6 天前

        ITT: Folks who don’t know a light roast has more caffeine than dark, and muddier coffee does not equate to more caffeine.

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      7 天前

      That’s how tough guy points work, yes.

      Do stupid shit, get tough guy points.

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    6 天前

    Then dry an energy drink or caffeine pills.

    Yeah, I drink coffee in part for the caffeine, but what’s the point of brewing fresh coffee if not to enjoy a tastier way to ingest caffeine?

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    you don’t get hints of cherry and grass until you have relinquished the mere desire for caffeine and ascended into true understanding of the bean