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  • Town@lemmy.zip
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    2 天前

    I’m expecting laws soon that make damaging or destroying mass surveillance cameras an enhanced felony like terrorism.

  • oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip
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    Everybody should take down all of them.

    Almost willing to say hang out there for the guy to come replace it and beat him just shy of disablement.

    That’s a little severe, but stupidity should be a crime. And with a job like that you’re either a bad guy or a stupid good guy. Or if your forced to work there somehow, you should be dismantling it from within.

    • 1984@lemmy.today
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      I think you should be happy that stupidity isn’t a crime since your comment is very stupid.

      Hurting the guy who installs a camera is absolutely the worst idea I’ve ever heard to fight flock surveillance.

    • bthest@lemmy.world
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      Almost willing to say hang out there for the guy to come replace it and beat him just shy of disablement.

      I’d try doxing them and damaging their vehicles first. Contractors will just stop taking those jobs.

      No need to get violent until Flock employees are forced to to come out and do it themselves…

    • trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf
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      2 天前

      Around here they made a schedule to install them in the dead of night, like 1 or 2am. It was maddening watching them pop up.

    • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Do you think the guys putting up the cameras are not also pawns in the games that billionaires are playing?

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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        The cops who beat peaceful protesters are also (willing) pawns in the same game. Being a pawn doesn’t absolve you of your culpability and “I was just following orders” isn’t a defence.

        • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          There’s a big difference between being a cop, and being a contractor who sometimes has to put up cameras

          • nlgranger@lemmy.world
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            I’m not capable of violence myself so I won’t pretend to support it. That being said, there is a whole process of dilution of responsibilities to make unacceptable decisions happen, if everyone plays nice and by the rules, nothing will happen. Past struggles have never been overcome peacefully.

            • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              My intention was that attacking the people doing to work of putting up the cameras is not moral.

              Destroying the cameras and resisting the police is, IMO, moral. Escalating action against the people sufficiently high up the hierarchy of the system that they’re making executive decisions? Also moral.

              • slag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                I personally vote for being polite and cordial. Patiently wait for them to finish, then swat the camera right back down with a baseball bat.

                Smile, then offer them the baseball bat and invite them to take a swing.

          • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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            Sure, one beats protestors, the other helps them figure out who to beat.

            At this point, you’re arguing which turd stinks less, when they all smell like shit.

            • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Do you really think that the people putting a pole in the ground are the same people who decide to put them there? Are the same ones who make any decision in the process of advancing fascism?

              People need food, and sometimes they have to do things they don’t really want to do for it.

              Hell, they may well be some of the same people destroying them, simply so they can get more work, for all you know.

              • oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip
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                And how many lives get directly fucked because of each individual camera?

                Would you not shoot a Nazi installing miniguns around the top of the white house? Sure, there’s “being forced into the machine”, but actively settng up their weapons is definitely at least one step too far.

                • SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  Oh for dogs sake, are the guys doing the installation then staying with the camera and pointing it at cars?

                  Your analogy makes no sense. Attack the cameras. Attack the company. Don’t attack someone who is just putting a pole in the ground.

                  Whatever happened to “no war but class war”?

    • T. Hex@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Almost willing to say hang out there for the guy to come replace it and beat him just shy of disablement.

      That’s gross.

    • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
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      The Air Force is the military branch with minimum requirements for mental capabilities, even if not officially. Pilots and aircraft mechanics are not front line fodder. And until the Space Force came along, they handled most of the stuff related to managing space as well.

      The Army and Marines will basically take anyone breathing. And the Navy is a bit of a mix, just gotta be a little bit gay since you’re gonna be stuck on a boat for months at a time with a bunch of seamen.

      Is it really surprising that it’s the Air Force that would have the servicemen that can read, comprehend, and act against all this obvious bullshit?