I personally see the ālove of Godā people feel as actually being self love that they otherwise wouldnāt be able to give themselves. That love really is the most essential to living a full life.
And as far as I know this communityās instance doesnāt do down votes, so any down votes are from your home instance. Never seen such a ratio on Lemmy before, wow.
Youāre right. Brahma, the one true god, did all this for us.
I didnāt know he got rhe romans to kill that imposter on the cross but you learn something new every day.
Hinduism is false as it commits multiple fallacies in itself, it is a mess of thousands of contradicting books with no unity.
many modern hindus claim its a āphilosophy/way of life not a religionā.
Hinduism is also slowly dying, and the only reason it has a ābillion peopleā is that the Indian government assumes that everyone is a Hindu at birth, and they made hinduism the ādefaultā religion in their databases
By masochistically sacrificing Himself, to Himself, to pay a price He chose to charge of His own free will, in order to cleanse us of the ātaintā of actions He considers sins.
For the sake of argument letās assume what you believe happened happened and that your god is real. The problem with omnipotence is that you canāt blaim anyone else for the system you set up. The crucifixion didnāt need to happen to āfree us from sinā, God wanted to incarnate into a mortal form and be tortured to death. Why? I cannot say, but He could have chosen some other way. He could choose to not threaten us with eternal torture simply for not loving Him. That isnāt love.
God is a fair judge, and he cant just let people off UNLESS someone else takes the punishment
Why not? Seriously. He set up the system. Why require punishment in that system? Jesus and God are the same person (hence ātriuneā ), so He essentially had us torture and kill Himself to appease His own vengeance.
He could have forgiven us without preconditions. He chose to require punishment. Then He chose to be tortured and killed . Now He demands that we thank him for it or Heāll punish us for eternity. Thatās psychopath behavior.
Infinite consequences for finite actions? Seems disproportionate.
One all knowing God who decided to sacrifice Himself to Himself to pay a price He wanted to pay.
We know it is eternal and irrevocable, and it is meant as punishment. Punishing someone eternally is immoral. Thereās no way around that. It doesnāt matter what they did.
I have an apology to make.
Iām afraid Iāve made a big mistake.
I turned my face away from you, Lord.
I was too blind to see the light.
I was too weak to feel Your might.
I closed my eyes; I couldnāt see the truth, Lord.
But then like Saul on the Damascus road,
you sent a messenger to me, and so ā¦
Now Iāve have had the truth revealed to me.
Please forgive me all those things I said.
Iāll no longer betray you, Lord.
I will pray to you instead.
And I will say Thank you, thank you, thank you God.
Thank you, thank you, thank you God.
Thank you God for fixing the cataracts of Samās mum.
I had no idea but itās suddenly so clear now. I feel such a cynic.
How could I have been so dumb?
Thank you for displaying how praying works:
a particular prayer in a particular church.
Thank you Sam for the chance to acknowledge this omnipotent opthamologist.
Thank you God for fixing the cataracts of Samās mum.
I didnāt realize that it was so simple, but youāve shown a great example of just how it can be done.
You only need to pray in a particular spot
to a particular version of a particular god,
and if you pull that off without a hitch,
he will fix one eye of one middle-class white bitch.
I know in the past my outlook has been limited.
I couldnāt see examples of where life had been definitive.
But I can admit it when the evidence is clear,
as clear as Samās mumās new cornea.
Thatās extremely clear! Extremely clear!
Thank you God for fixing the cataracts of Samās mum.
I have to admit that in the past I have been skeptical but Sam described this miracle and I am overcome!
How fitting that the sighting of a sight-based intervention
should open my eyes to this exciting new dimension.
Itās like someone put an eye chart up in front of me
and the top five letters say: I C G O D.
Thank you, Sam, for showing how my point of view has been so flawed.
I assumed there was no God at all but now I see thatās cynical. Itās simply that his interests arenāt particularly broad.
Heās largely undiverted by the starving masses,
or the inequality between the various classes.
He gives you strictly limited passes,
redeemable for surgery or two-for-one glasses.
I feel so shocking for historically mocking you.
Your interests are clearly confined to the ocular.
I bet given the chance, youād eschew the divine
and start a little business selling contacts online.
Fuck me Sam, what are the odds that of historyās endless parade of gods
that the God you just happened to be taught to believe in is the actual one and he digs on healing,
but not the AIDS-ridden African nations, nor the victims of the plague or the flood-addled Asians,
but healthy, privately-insured Australians
with common and curable corneal degeneration
This story of Samās has but a single explanation:
a surgical God who digs on magic explanations.
No it couldnāt be mistaken attribution of causation,
born of a coincidental temporal correlation,
exacerbated by a general lack of education
vis-a-vis physics in Samās parish congregation.
And it couldnāt be that all these pious people are liars.
It couldnāt be an artifact of confirmation bias,
a product of groupthink,
a mass delusion,
an Emperorās New Clothes-style fear of exclusion.
No, itās more likely to be an all-powerful magician
than the misdiagnosis of the initial condition,
or one of many cases of spontaneous remission,
or a record-keeping glitch by the local physician.
No, the only explanation for Samās mumās seeing:
they prayed to an all-knowing superbeing,
to the omnipresent master of the universe,
and he liked the sound of their muttered verse.
So for a bit of a change from his usual stunt
of being a sexist, racist, murderous cunt,
he popped down to Dandenong and just like that,
used his powers to heal the cataracts of Samās mum
of Samās mum!
Thank you God for fixing the cataracts of Samās mum!
I didnāt realize that it was such a simple thing.
I feel such a dingaling, what ignorant scum!
Now I understand how prayer can work:
a particular prayer in a particular church
in a particular style with a particular stuff
and a particular book for particular problems
that arenāt particularly tough,
and for particular people, preferably white,
for particular senses, preferably sight,
a particular prayer in a particular spot,
to a particular version of a particular god.
And if you get that right, He just might take a break from giving babies malaria and pop down to your local area to fix the cataracts of your mum!
I kinda feel bad about it because I think they were genuinely trying to be supportive. Theyāre far more supportive than the person telling ND people to shut up and mask.
You are always loved by God
any love of man is incomparable to the love of God
Which one? Iām vetting them to see who has the better dental plan. Thereās just so many to choose from, itās tough to decide.
whatever you do donāt fucking deal with the fae, theyāll get you to sell your own teeth for a pittence
Jokes on them, Iām all out of pittances.
I personally see the ālove of Godā people feel as actually being self love that they otherwise wouldnāt be able to give themselves. That love really is the most essential to living a full life.
the complete absence of upvotes on this lmfao
Also the complete absence of ability to read the room.
And as far as I know this communityās instance doesnāt do down votes, so any down votes are from your home instance. Never seen such a ratio on Lemmy before, wow.
it still has zero upvotes except their own
There are a lot of gods, so which one? Also, i never saw a god showing love to me, did i got left behind? Damn it
The one triune God
and you being born, being alive, having food, having a machine to comment this are all examples of hs Love for you
and he expressed the ultimate love to us on the Cross
Youāre right. Brahma, the one true god, did all this for us.
I didnāt know he got rhe romans to kill that imposter on the cross but you learn something new every day.
Hinduism is false as it commits multiple fallacies in itself, it is a mess of thousands of contradicting books with no unity.
many modern hindus claim its a āphilosophy/way of life not a religionā.
Hinduism is also slowly dying, and the only reason it has a ābillion peopleā is that the Indian government assumes that everyone is a Hindu at birth, and they made hinduism the ādefaultā religion in their databases
WAIT SO MY MOM HAD AN AFFAIR WITH GOD?!
No need to slap it again in my face TwT
He never paid a dime duh
I am sure that i have this phone because some chinese kid manufactured this, unlessā¦THE KID IS GOD??
This is a lot to processā¦
no, God ensured the circumstances for your birth
He provided the food, without him, there would be no wheat for the bread you enjoy
By masochistically sacrificing Himself, to Himself, to pay a price He chose to charge of His own free will, in order to cleanse us of the ātaintā of actions He considers sins.
For the sake of argument letās assume what you believe happened happened and that your god is real. The problem with omnipotence is that you canāt blaim anyone else for the system you set up. The crucifixion didnāt need to happen to āfree us from sinā, God wanted to incarnate into a mortal form and be tortured to death. Why? I cannot say, but He could have chosen some other way. He could choose to not threaten us with eternal torture simply for not loving Him. That isnāt love.
It is not God who rejects us, it is us that reject God
and the concept of hell is basically a place without God
you didnt want God your entire life, so yeah, you wont be with God, you have free will
but ohhh you want the privileges that come with creation and God himself but not put in any spiritual effort yourself?
God is a fair judge, and he cant just let people off UNLESS someone else takes the punishment
Jesus took the punishment
Why not? Seriously. He set up the system. Why require punishment in that system? Jesus and God are the same person (hence ātriuneā ), so He essentially had us torture and kill Himself to appease His own vengeance.
He could have forgiven us without preconditions. He chose to require punishment. Then He chose to be tortured and killed . Now He demands that we thank him for it or Heāll punish us for eternity. Thatās psychopath behavior.
because there are consequences for your actions?
and the trinity is comprised of three different persons and one God
We know very little about hell currently, and dantes inferno isnt canon
Infinite consequences for finite actions? Seems disproportionate.
One all knowing God who decided to sacrifice Himself to Himself to pay a price He wanted to pay.
We know it is eternal and irrevocable, and it is meant as punishment. Punishing someone eternally is immoral. Thereās no way around that. It doesnāt matter what they did.
Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?
Martin Luther is a heretic
The one universal church (the Catholic Church) is true
I was referencing a joke about that exact sentiment. You have zero self awareness.
if āgodā ālovesā me then why does its book say it hates me (im queer)
when have there ever been signs of a real god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8HT6Ux8FM (invidious: https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=zi8HT6Ux8FM )
(long) transcript of that song:
I have an apology to make. Iām afraid Iāve made a big mistake. I turned my face away from you, Lord.
I was too blind to see the light. I was too weak to feel Your might. I closed my eyes; I couldnāt see the truth, Lord.
But then like Saul on the Damascus road, you sent a messenger to me, and so ā¦
Now Iāve have had the truth revealed to me. Please forgive me all those things I said. Iāll no longer betray you, Lord. I will pray to you instead.
And I will say Thank you, thank you, thank you God. Thank you, thank you, thank you God.
Thank you God for fixing the cataracts of Samās mum.
I had no idea but itās suddenly so clear now. I feel such a cynic. How could I have been so dumb?
Thank you for displaying how praying works: a particular prayer in a particular church. Thank you Sam for the chance to acknowledge this omnipotent opthamologist.
Thank you God for fixing the cataracts of Samās mum. I didnāt realize that it was so simple, but youāve shown a great example of just how it can be done.
You only need to pray in a particular spot to a particular version of a particular god, and if you pull that off without a hitch, he will fix one eye of one middle-class white bitch.
I know in the past my outlook has been limited. I couldnāt see examples of where life had been definitive. But I can admit it when the evidence is clear, as clear as Samās mumās new cornea.
Thatās extremely clear! Extremely clear!
Thank you God for fixing the cataracts of Samās mum. I have to admit that in the past I have been skeptical but Sam described this miracle and I am overcome!
How fitting that the sighting of a sight-based intervention should open my eyes to this exciting new dimension. Itās like someone put an eye chart up in front of me and the top five letters say: I C G O D.
Thank you, Sam, for showing how my point of view has been so flawed. I assumed there was no God at all but now I see thatās cynical. Itās simply that his interests arenāt particularly broad.
Heās largely undiverted by the starving masses, or the inequality between the various classes. He gives you strictly limited passes, redeemable for surgery or two-for-one glasses.
I feel so shocking for historically mocking you. Your interests are clearly confined to the ocular. I bet given the chance, youād eschew the divine and start a little business selling contacts online.
Fuck me Sam, what are the odds that of historyās endless parade of gods that the God you just happened to be taught to believe in is the actual one and he digs on healing, but not the AIDS-ridden African nations, nor the victims of the plague or the flood-addled Asians, but healthy, privately-insured Australians with common and curable corneal degeneration
This story of Samās has but a single explanation: a surgical God who digs on magic explanations. No it couldnāt be mistaken attribution of causation, born of a coincidental temporal correlation, exacerbated by a general lack of education vis-a-vis physics in Samās parish congregation. And it couldnāt be that all these pious people are liars. It couldnāt be an artifact of confirmation bias, a product of groupthink, a mass delusion, an Emperorās New Clothes-style fear of exclusion.
No, itās more likely to be an all-powerful magician than the misdiagnosis of the initial condition, or one of many cases of spontaneous remission, or a record-keeping glitch by the local physician.
No, the only explanation for Samās mumās seeing: they prayed to an all-knowing superbeing, to the omnipresent master of the universe, and he liked the sound of their muttered verse.
So for a bit of a change from his usual stunt of being a sexist, racist, murderous cunt, he popped down to Dandenong and just like that, used his powers to heal the cataracts of Samās mum of Samās mum!
Thank you God for fixing the cataracts of Samās mum! I didnāt realize that it was such a simple thing. I feel such a dingaling, what ignorant scum!
Now I understand how prayer can work: a particular prayer in a particular church in a particular style with a particular stuff and a particular book for particular problems that arenāt particularly tough, and for particular people, preferably white, for particular senses, preferably sight, a particular prayer in a particular spot, to a particular version of a particular god.
And if you get that right, He just might take a break from giving babies malaria and pop down to your local area to fix the cataracts of your mum!
āa god that loves you unconditionally, but only under certain conditionsā type shit XD
and there have been multiple miracles proving God
the Bible never says God hates queer people
the 1 upvote to 29 downvotes is so funny to me
I kinda feel bad about it because I think they were genuinely trying to be supportive. Theyāre far more supportive than the person telling ND people to shut up and mask.