Karachi’s chief police surgeon condemns increasing acceptance of domestic murders and rapes of women and girls
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It’s things like this that can quickly spiral downwards, like in this case. If boys already learn the value of a woman at home, in school and everywhere due to religion. When women are considered a property not a person. When marital rape is considered your “right” as a “husband”.
Now come and downvote because I’m “islamophobic” lol. Yeah “not all Muslims are like that!” And “they’re abusing Islam!” And “they’re not real Muslims!” And…
Hey I’m a Pakistani Muslim whose entire family doesn’t believe that stuff. In fact every single woman in my extended family has advanced degrees and are prominent members of society. My mother is a doctor who was our primary breadwinner for most of my life.
I know it’s easy to just believe the caricatures you see in the news, but Pakistanis and Muslims are a very diverse group of people. Feminists exist in all societies. Marital Rape wasn’t that uncommon in Western traditions until recently. This is an ongoing challenge but to just blame the entirety of Islam is ignorant and lacks nuance. There’s tons of Muslims (the women mentioned in the article for example) who don’t support this stuff.
I learned in life to never ever discuss with religious people, but…
Just because you might be nice, doesn’t make Islam nice. You still are part of it and silently accept it. I mean come on, your prophet was a pedo. If I’d only be a Nazi because I like the uniforms, I still am part of it and am advocating for them by acceptance.
Also, just because marital rape was also common in non-muslims doesn’t make it better. Here it was outlawed 50yrs ago. Still sad, but the cause was also religion. If someone needs to tell you that raping the woman, that they claim, you’d love, is wrong. They’re just a piece of shit.
If YOU don’t do all this and are the nicest and friendliest Muslim that ever lived, does change nothing. You’re a member of the excuse for so much injustice, marital rape (slavery), killings and whatnot. You can condemn it all you want, you’re still advocating it.
Also, if your family is so highly educated, you should know islam is (like most religions) just a political tool for control of the dumb masses and also conquering.
And it’s pure heaven for pedos and people that no woman ever would touch freely because they’re disgusting inside.
Sounds to me like you’re not really open to other viewpoints. I hope you enjoy being racist and trapped in a world that can never get better.
See? Never argue with religious nutjobs. Now I’m racist too lol. No, I’m religionist if you want a drawer to put me into.
trapped in a world that can never get better.
Coming from someone who is part of …see the headline of this topic 😁 You go and make the world a better place, I can’t await it.
I have contempt for anyone who needs the invisible sky parents paternal hand to guide you away from violence and cruelty. Being a decent person comes from within, not religious fear.
Shits weak, and its for weak-minded people.
10 year old me was right then and is still right now, religion itself is cancerous.
Amen bro 😁 But yes, same.
Now come and downvote because I’m “islamophobic” lol. Yeah “not all Muslims are like that!” And “they’re abusing Islam!” And “they’re not real Muslims!” And…
I wouldn’t have thought of Islamophobia if you hadn’t written this. No sure where this is coming from? I mean, do you think all Muslims are like that ? I might reconsider.
I wouldn’t have thought of Islamophobia if you hadn’t written this. No sure where this is coming from? I mean, do you think all Muslims are like that ? I might reconsider.
I’m German, that should explain. We can’t even say “Muslim” without already being accused of that silly word 😁 (or racism in general) Also I know that every time I voice that opinion, the usuals come to fight it because “religion of peace” and such.
No, not all are like that. But they all accept it and hence they are, to me, absolutely not different . Even if they don’t accept it, they are part of the problem and not the solution.
And I despise all religion from the depth of my heart. Islam being on top of them.
I’m German, that should explain. We can’t even say “Muslim” without already being accused of that silly word
That’s not true in my experience. Maybe try to step out of your bubble. To be honest, it sounds a lot like a hurt “Das wird man have wohl nochmal sagen dürfen”. I don’t mean that personal, but that is the vibe I get.
No, not all are like that. But they all accept it
I cannot follow that argument and I think it is a pretty dangerous way of thinking. It means a person is responsible for another, because they belong to the same group. It’s like saying a west German protestant is responsible for the opinions expressed by the evangelical fascists in the US.
And I despise all religion from the depth of my heart.
I am also an atheist, but as I got older, I learned to respect the life decisions of other people and don’t judge them. I am very critical of institutionalized religion. Trust me, fuck islamists. Nevertheless I try to separate a man from his beliefs, and I would never make my muslim neighbor responsible for the suffering radical islamists in the world are doing to people.
That’s not true in my experience. Maybe try to step out of your bubble. To be honest, it sounds a lot like a hurt “Das wird man have wohl nochmal sagen dürfen”. I don’t mean that personal, but that is the vibe I get.
I meant it a bit exaggerated, not absolute truth. Though i did notice this is a touchy subject here.
I cannot follow that argument and I think it is a pretty dangerous way of thinking. It means a person is responsible for another, because they belong to the same group. It’s like saying a west German protestant is responsible for the opinions expressed by the evangelical fascists in the US.
Well, if you joined the Nazis, you are a Nazi. If some subgroup is nicer than the others or have slightly different rules, or you’re just in for the cool uniforms but hate the ideology, it does not matter much, does it? They all more or less follow the same scripture. Either you’re someone running along having no clue, or balls deep into it. Religion isn’t different. You can be the loveliest Muslim ever (and yeah sure, individually they can be nice), you’re still member of a cult that marries kids, owns women and kill the non-believers. Maybe not in germany, but elsewhere.
I am also an atheist, but as I got older, I learned to respect the life decisions of other people and don’t judge them. I am very critical of institutionalized religion. Trust me, fuck islamists. Nevertheless I try to separate a man from his beliefs, and I would never make my muslim neighbor responsible for the suffering radical islamists in the world are doing to people.
Not an atheist but an agnostic. Though that doesn’t matter. That might work great for you being tolerant and all, but i can’t and don’t want to be. Calling “them” islamists and the “others” muslims is also a weird thing. Who gets to say who is a “true” muslim? Those islamists also think they’re the true muslims and our soft-washed are worthless and would also be killed. Not every muslim is a terrorist, but most terrorists are muslim. I see a muslim out there and for me (s)he is accomplice to everything ugly this religion does.
As said, tolerance is a great thing, base on compassion and empathy. I do have a lot of that, but injustice I cannot stand. I could be the most piss-poor pakistani in the most region bumfucking nowhere, i would not treat my wife as property just because some ancient book says i could. and everyone else says i could. I don’t need moral guidance from others. Owning people is wrong, period.
I don’t despise all, I’d like to think I have respect for someone’s choice, but I can’t stand the by cruelty and hypocritical practices of most religion.
But that’s sadly also part of the problem. Tolerance. While it’s usually a great thing to have, there should be limits. Respect is even way more, and i could not bring that up for religious people. If i’d give a drunken driver respect and approval, I’m complicit to what he does.
No, I didn’t assume you’re islamaphobic, but knowing you are I now think you’re a fool.
And if you’d listen very very carefully, you might hear the sound of me not caring about your opinion of me.
So… Pakistan will be entering the war.
