- cross-posted to:
- memes@lemmy.ml
What I find funny is look at Moana. Its important that the correct race is represented. But when it is a European storey it’s open to anyone. What ever but stick to a lane either race doesn’t matter and or it does.
The people complaining (or at least the 1 person I know who complained to me about it) wouldn’t watch the movie even if it was an all ethnically correct cast.
(I’m not watching it because Tenet spoiled my hype-o-meter for Nolan)
Honestly, this tabs into two issues I have with the Woker™
1. Corporate Wokeness
Is not real wokeness, it’s a cheap plastic copy meant to virtue signal to consumers without any understanding about the issues that move many consumers today. And corpo-wokeness pumps into a feedback-loop with people who do the same (virtue signal without understanding, lifestyle-lefties who have never really been in someone else’s shoes).
But then again I’d rather have Corpo-Woke than Corpo-Fash, I just wish we could do without the commercialization of our culture.
2. The reduction of our cultural story-landscape to eurocentric narratives and history.
We have SOOOOO many movies and films set in ancient Rome/Greece or medieval Europe and we get basically no stories out of ancient subsaharan Africa or pre-colonization Australia and India. Many of these stories are lost thanks to colonization, but there should still be SOOOO many stories to tell and our eurocentric culture focuses on continually recycling the same two dozen stories (Troy, Spartacus, Caesar, Beowulf, Vikings, Arthur, etc.) that continually only provide the same roles we’ve seen a thousand times.
But then again I’d rather have some representation in a eurocentric landscape than no representation at all. I just wish we could shake off the eurocentrism, so that representation would be build into a system, that sources its stories out of every culture, instead of artificially gluing representation onto it.
The issue here isn’t “white erasure”. The issue is virtue signaling tokenization. Insidious racism.
I think casting a black woman in a role for the most beautiful woman in the world as a little more than a token gesture, personally
The core issue is that producers likely wanted to ride off the popularity of a classic story, but also wanted to score diversity points.
It’s still tokenization.
Would you rather have 0 representation, or 1 token representation?
We aren’t limited to those 2 bad choices, so I choose neither. Make original stories with proper representation.
Unless you are creating them, that’s not your choice to make. The third option is getting nothing then.
Regardless of what you choose to consume or not consume, you have the option of voicing your opinion. That’s great, I love that.
And if/when we have plenty of media that offer true representation, you can judge token representation as much as you want. Because you are right.
But until we get there, don’t underestimate the power of a little bit of representation, please.
That choice is being made, maybe not by mainstream but it does exist.
Tokenization isn’t representation. Tokenization undermines representation. I don’t believe we should accept it as such.
I genuinely believe no representation is better than tokenization. It is much easier to educate someone who knows nothing, than to reeducate a misunderstanding.
And this is the core of our disagreement. I guess time will tell.


