Apparently, quoting the article means it breaks the rules of the community, so I will not be quoting the article at all in the hopes more people see the terror the regime is inflicting on our communities.
To see news like this with quotes, please visit c/crimes_of_ice
The order would allow health inspectors to enter the detention facility, with the exception of administrative and medical areas.
I am sure GEO Group won’t abuse these carve outs.
Watch them claim that the holding cells are actually hospital rooms. Hell, why not say that the entire detention facility is actually a hospital? But it’s a very special hospital that only admits certain kinds of patients and they also cannot be discharged. Of course, good luck getting the inspectors to believe the guards are actually all doctors and nurses.
And then we go another 8 months of litigation just for the judge to allow inspection of medical areas, but not administrative areas. Now all of a sudden the entire jail is an office building.
Then the judge needs to add provisions that say ICE and Geo Group must prove that the jail is an office building. Same thing for if they claim it’s a hospital. At which point I’m sure ICE will burn through its massive budget to sell the lie. Like, they turn the cells into offices really quickly, make the detainees wear a uniform that looks almost like “business casual” and coach them on how to sound like they work in an office or whatever.
Yet another court order that ICE will ignore.
I would appreciate a short highlight being posted instead of your statement about not quoting the article. I fail to understand how that breaks the rules.
When I am at work I am not at liberty to click every link. A short quote of the article’s main thrust helps with that.
I also fail to understand how it breaks the rules. But I would rather my posts not get removed from the community.
You can find a post with quotes here: https://lemmy.4d2.org/post/4359326
Just post an excerpt.
If you offered a friend a bite of your lunch, you wouldn’t want them to gobble up 80-90% of your food. If a friend let you borrow a car as long as you put gas in, you wouldn’t return it with 1/8 of the tank and call it good.
Use common sense, and remember that these rules exist for the protection and safety of the community. Mods are just users who volunteer their time to keep things running smoothly.
The rules say not to quote the entire article. Maybe the rules should reflect what you enforce?
Seems to me, the rules should be updated to say, dont quote more than 7/8ths of the article. But either way, I’m American, idk what an 8th of an article is. I would rather not risk the post be removed.
Btw, some articles are 2 paragraph stubs because the story is developing, what would I be able to quote in that case?
I know mods volunteer, I’m a mod too. I am also volunteering my time to share the news, in this community and to quote in a way that captures context of the story. If you don’t like that, then I just won’t do that here.
Ps: use common sense. If I post an article and it gets highly voted that means the community thinks it is important. If I quote that article in a comment, you could just delete the comment if you think I quoted too much. There is no reason to delete the entire post from the community.
If an entire post was removed due to a rule-breaking comment, please let me know because that is certainly an error. Send me the link or the mod log entry and I’d be happy to review it.
I can’t send the link as the post was removed.
I guess you also didn’t like the original title of the article from the verge.
The article quotes were in a comment however.
this again? you’re being obtuse.
I didn’t see the comment, but that should have been removed as well. When you cross post from certain clients it will include the entire original text that was in the original post, which in this case was nearly all of the article. Some clients may hide the content of the cross-post although I’m not sure why. Now that I see the comments, I see that another user even mentioned this fact to you, so it’s clear that you were aware of it.
I’m not sure what client you’re using to cross post or what client you’re viewing it from. Regardless, the post itself includes the cross-posted text. This is an issue with Lemmy cross-posting, and you would have to take that up with the devs.
It would be appropriate to continue this conversation through direct messages.
The rule states not to quote the entire article because of copyright reasons. So just don’t do that. Please do post a short quote in the future.
Edit: I am curious why this comment got downvoted. I stated what the rule was and asked for short synopsis. Seems fine. How is that a bad thing?
I did not do that and my posts were still removed.
Apparently it has something to do with “fair use” so I have to carefully figure out what that means to each mod arbitrarily… And no, not doing that.
All I want is to share the news to the most people possible, and if not quoting means I can do it then so be it.
I quote the first few paragraphs of the articles and they don’t remove my posts. Look at my post history if you want an example.
I’m happy for you that your posts were not arbitrarily removed like mine were.
I didn’t say yours weren’t arbitrarily removed.
It doesn’t break the rules at all. Almost everyone who posts here includes a one or two paragraph quote.
