Just blocked lemmy.ml from my Lemmy account, and I swear to god it’s one of the best things I’ve ever done on this platform. My homepage feels actually clean now.
For the past few months I’d been seeing a lot of tankie posting and pretty much far-left propaganda on my feed. It got tiring enough that I finally checked my blocked-user list, and realized pretty much everyone I’d blocked was from lemmy.ml. So I just blocked the whole instance instead.
Saying this as someone who considers themselves a leftist: I used to think Lemmy itself was an echo chamber. Turns out lemmy.ml was the problem the entire time. Probably the reason I tolerated it for so long is that I agreed with a lot of what they posted, but like an oversaturated meme, I’d had enough. Browsing the platform was starting to feel way too tiring instead of fun, which defeats the point of being here in the first place.
The breaking point was seeing some dude post a “meme” implying North Korea and China are basically communist utopias and that the West sucks. I mean, the West does suck, but come on - you’re saying North Korea is the ideal the West should strive for? What the hell…


I think Lemmy is radicalizing.
It’s not just Lemmy.ml either. I used to love dbz0, almost switched from lemmy.world, but now all the non-political content is withering away, and most of what I see is just absolutist, anarchist post. The admin is fine with explicit calls to violence against pretty much anyone.
And that’s fine. It’s their instance, they can their thing. But it’s so extreme I don’t even find satisfaction interacting with the instance anymore, like it’s a single community with one topic.
And I don’t mean to single them out. I have similar feelings from many instances, including Lemmy.world.
I’ve even seen some pretty extreme stuff on blajah, which I used to picture as a wholesome LGBTQ+ instance! Which I adore… until it’s not so wholesome.
What’s worse, Lemmy users don’t seem to care.
I’ll point out some off-topic discussion in a thread, and I just get piled on. Like, not every single Lemmy conversation has to involve statements about western imperialism or the futility of democracy or whatever, but apparently it does on Lemmy.ml, and it feels like it’s spreading.
That was more of a rant than I intended.
But I am concerned about this new internet place I like. I’ve seen one or two other Reddit clones wither away from political radicalization, too.
I can see where you’re coming from. At this point I’m not interested in engaging with content that has a negative impact on my mental health, even if I support those views. There’s some extent of irony in this behavior, but I’m just tired of being constantly bombarded with reminders of our sad world. I don’t use typical social media, and every once in a while when I catch a whiff of a friend’s Tiktok or Instagram feed, I’m completely blown away by how much content there is designed to trigger a negative, or often an angry reaction. This was a big reason for me to leave Reddit and I’m trying to avoid this as much as possible on Lemmy.
I’m still very new here and still trying to figure this whole fediverse thing out, I’ve only been here for about a month, give or take. Like some other user suggested were common for newbies to Lemmy, I chose the most active instance without really thinking about it, and always scroll through /All. During my short experience here, I have blocked so, so many communities and instances already. Blahaj is one of them, not because I disagree with the importance or need to stand up for LGTQ+ rights, but because I feel that the general content posted there is naturally based on a politically driven agenda, which again is all fine, but I browse this shit before bed to escape my already constant anxiety, and I’m here for memes and a good time. I’m not interested in content that is either dystopian doomerism, American circus politics, war reports, or what ever depressing reminders of our current speedrun to degrade human life, in basically all categories.
I get that people are actively frustrated, angry, in need to vent, or in need of other’s to help them feel less alone, that they’re not the only ones who think the world is losing their minds. This space is perfect for people to discuss those things, to find likeminded people and even challenge their believes from other’s opinions. But that’s not what I’m looking for. I could just make it easy for myself and sub to the lighthearted communities that fits to my need and just scroll through that instead, but I enjoy the random posts from communities I wouldn’t find unless I was scrolling through /All, like this post for example.
Instead, I just block everything that has a negative reaction that makes me chose to engage in that content from my side. Like another news article about Musk posting something dumb on Twitter once again, for example. If I read the title and want to click the post to read more, I stop to ask myself if feel that if the reason to want to read more stems from anger or frustration, if it does I try to move on. Not because I feel that the topic shouldn’t be discussed or that it shouldn’t have an angry reaction, but because it’s fucking everywhere already and I’m not trying to feed my depression further. Call it an ostrich behaviour, but it makes my experience a little better.
I get that.
That’s part of my motivation too.
My mental state is not great, and I too came here to avoid a manipulative bombardment of ragebait. Hence its frustrating to fund other users reposting it, especially when its misleading or straight up misinformation.
I thought most of us came here to escape that trap, but apparently not.
Sorry for speaking out against transphobes in a not-wholesome way. It will happen again.
Ever since the reddit migration, troll instances who already existed on the fediverse saw a shiny new plaything.
When their home instances became defederated, their users spun up new ones, and were welcomed with open arms under the assumption they were new.
That bought them access to admin channels, were they could socially manipulate legitimate admins of major instances.
People who know controlled relatively large social media platforms…
People who didn’t receive any training and may not have had the best social skills to begin with.
So, what I’m trying to say is, it’s not all that they’re radicalized in the sense that their views changed organically. They’re radicalized like people taken advantage of by FBI informants into “planning” an attack.
The people telling them to do this stupid shit don’t think it’s a good idea, they just want to burn it down to watch it burn.
Are you thinking of Unruffled and db0?
It’s not just one account/instance.
If I was going to imply one tho, it would have been the person who bans everyone else from their instance for “impersonation” if anyone signs up to it.
It’s literally a one person instance, but that lets them into admin channels and gives them an equal seat at the table.
That’s the really obvious one, but I’m not going to name them either.
You’re not wrong, dbzer0 is fine with people having profiles like this:
I think israel is committing war crimes and genocide right now and need to be reined in and leaders put in jail but calling for blanket murders like this is over the line.
Yeah, precisely.
This is exactly what I’m talking about.
If someone’s talking about kill all Zionist soldiers, I think that’s fine. There’s a war on, and soldiers have to die for wars to end. Same with the politicians, that’s fine.
But if someone’s saying kill all zionists, and they’re also talking about civilians, well… There is no anarchist way to exterminate a group of civilians like that. The only way to do that kind of violence is with a state killing apparatus. You know, a death penalty.
And as an anarchist, I don’t support the death penalty. Governments cannot be trusted with power over death, it’s too much. Anyone saying “kill all zionists” and advocating for a death penalty is not an anarchist. Those people should be banned from any self respecting anarchist instance.
I don’t think they should be banned but they should be made aware that that’s unacceptable behavior for any instance.
It’s not on over the line on dbzer0 though. The admin has made that crystal clear.
And when other admins try to put the foot down (like on Lemmy.world), the communty piles on them.
Just use tesseract and have us all automatically blocked then if we’re all scary radicals. I see you were defending admiral patrick a few weeks ago, surprised you aren’t hiding behind it still. It’s right there for anyone who needs everything sanitized and corporate approved for them.
Leftism and pro LGBTQIA comms are not radical, violent, or terroristic, and trying to suggest they are is going to get you shit on here. It’s by design to keep the fash out. Lemmy is overwhelmingly a leftist space, and most leftists have no problem with telling it how it is, especially during the largest global resurgence in fascism since WWII.
At a certain point, if everyone around you is a problem, maybe you should consider the possibility that the source of your discomfort is much more localized.
I was not defending the tesseract dev, what they did is inexcusable. That app can burn.
I sympathized with them some, though. I get what they were trying to do in their head, on some level.
If you think the more extreme parts of Lemmy are representative of “everyone around you,” as in the larger public in my life, I don’t even know where to begin with that. We live in different worlds I guess.
Correct, I don’t surround myself with Enlightened Centrists© who think a little fascism is okay as a treat.
If you think being left of Newsom and supporting marginalized communities is extremism, you don’t belong here, simple as. None of us will miss you when you go back to reddit and twitter.
I don’t know why you’re being so thorny.
And why would I ever got back to Twitter or Reddit? They’re cesspools. What would make you think I’d ever touch them?
…This is exactly what I’m talking about. Its like if I don’t pass a political purity test, if I am not X level of explicit or hostile in every single post, I’m the enemy. Because apparently I’m not good enough for lemmy.
Stop acting like being on that list was exclusive to any demographic.
I’m on that and I’ve been called every political label under the sun as an insult on here.
Wasn’t the point being made, but go off king 👍
But what are your thoughts on western imperialism and the futility of democracy?
;-)
Okay just block them, and block everything else you dont want to see, idk yeah theyre a bunch of crazy wannabe communists, i agree we all agree, just block and move on, like what else is there? Doxx them? That makes no sense, right?
it’s crazy people who are butthurt ivan drago lost in rocky iv, they’re not worth your attention – quite frankly this couldn’t be a better advertisement for lemmy.mi or whatever it is. So i guess that’s my rant, stop reacting with content you don’t like. If something real and local to your geography is happening, yes, go to a protest, volunteer helping underserved communities. But if it’s on freaking social media (federated or otherwise) just block and move on, dont feed into it. We don’t even know what corner of the world they actually live in. Think about all the horrible people in the world in positions of power – they all get tons of negative attention online and they harness that negative attention into real-world benefits for them.
I can.
But as some point I worry about the health of the community.
I don’t want to invest my time in platform that shrinks into a one-topic pit. Been down that rabbit hole before.
…To be clear, I think Lemmy is okay now, but I worry about the trajectory.
It’s FOSS, it’s a federation, like yes crazy people will make instances full of crazy stuff and you block/defederate them. Idk, like it’s part of the thought process behind it, like im sure literal genocidal dictators host a couple instances we probably never heard of. That was always the answer on day 1 of a free and open social network, crazies are free to join like everyone else and they get blocked, what other system would be better?
The structure is important, too. That ultimately colors the community, no matter how “free” it is.
I think Lemmy mirrored Reddit a little too closely. For instance, feeds are structured in a way so that popular and “ragebait” communities rise over niche interest ones, and starve the latter.
Piefed is better, and getting better, though. In some ways.