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Cake day: June 30th, 2023

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  • To be clear:

    Although the JC includes diverse voices, internal resignations in 2024, including high-profile writers like David Baddiel and Jonathan Freedland, followed the publication of articles that were later determined to be fabricated. These articles, authored by freelance journalist Elon Perry, included claims about Israeli operations in Gaza that lacked credible sourcing and were subsequently retracted by the publication. The controversy led to the resignation of prominent columnists Jonathan Freedland, Hadley Freeman, and David Aaronovitch, who cited concerns over the newspaper’s editorial standards and the decision to publish unverified information.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-jewish-chronicle-jc-bias-and-credibility/

    This is a known propaganda source and no one should believe anything coming from in regards to Israel’s genocide of the Palestinian people.

    Propaganda is dystopian as fuck tho, so I guess I’m eaving the article up.


  • note that neither Penrose or Hameroff are trained in the discipline either.

    Because it’s a physics problem… At its base level consciousness is a thing that is happening between physical components unless you say it’s Jesus taking the wheel at it’s root it’s a physics problem.

    He’s spent literally 40 years of his “retirement” looking into it. He knows far more than us or anyone else on the planet.

    Someone will come after him and finish it up, just like him and Hawking finished Einstein’s. That doesn’t mean pretend it doesn’t exist till it’s scientifically proven.

    I compared it temperature, which can also produce anesthesia and loss of consciousness. But no one would step up and say that consciousness is temperature

    What does that even mean?

    That would be the cause not mechanism of action. Like, I get you were trying to make a silly point, but all that did is show you’re not understanding this

    I’m sorry, I just don’t think I’m able to explain this in a way you can understand


  • The fact that superposition may exist in the brain does not mean it’s causal in “consciousness” (cf. temperature in the regulation of cognition).

    For that you can look at how anesthesia works…

    Which, we don’t know how it does. But we do know it results in a disruption of those microtubules, thus losing the superposition.

    And it would also explain why a hit to the head can also cause unconscious, the microtubules being physically disrupted by the impact. Along with many other examples.

    What you’re doing is like arguing that we don’t know if gravity is real because it’s still a theory.

    Hell, string theory was accepted for like 40 years, but ask any of the greatest living physicists today about it and they’ll tell you it’s been a waste of time and needs thrown out.

    You’re too hung up on scientific consensus without understanding how hard that is to achieve and that sometimes, it’s still wrong.

    Everything we know about conscious/intelligence points to a quantum component and has for decades. Just because we don’t know everything about it doesn’t mean we ignore it. Hell, we just got the tech to verify it’s there.

    It’s there and it’s real, regardless of if we know how it’s happening. Pretending we can ignore it because we don’t understand it is the opposite of science.