A lot of people seem to be realizing that knowledge work is mostly pointless. AI might give us the pleasure of finding out what happens if an entire class of workers loses faith in their careers.
I have 3 decades of experience in programming. I started with QBasic on an IBM386. I learned what system files to not delete out of Windows or Linux. I went to university and learned Java and .Net and SQL. I’ve done web. I’ve done server admin. I’ve got decades of Windows and Linux and shell scripting and databases of every flavor and just… All of it.
What do I do lately at work? I fill out spreadsheets with information that already exists in 7 other spreadsheets, but we need this in THIS format for THIS VPs request. And I fill out status updates. And I go to meetings and listen for an hour as everyone talks about their status updates on projects I don’t even know anything about or care.
My manager asks us to make sure we are learning and using AI. Why? Well, the C and VP suites think we should be. Does it actually help or make anything better? Not really. But ok, fine.
And then the real irony kick in the balls. As we push literally everything in the company to be “Cloud This” and “Distributed That” and “AI more!” and “Be flexible !” … and they did the big RTO mandate last year. The fuck? You want everything to be remote and cloud and distributed and modern and agile, except employees must commute in and sit in this specific chair to join their video call meeting. And 3/5ths of my team is out of state and so exempt from the RTO mandate, including my supervisor. What the fucking fuck? I have to drive in and sit in a shitty cube while they get to kick back at home? Fuck that.
Decades of knowledge and experience and talent, and I fill out spreadsheets with duplicate information IN PERSON while coworkers get all the benefits of WFH and the same damn pay.
I don’t even know what my supervisor does except ask us “is XYZ done yet?” a couple times per week, that seems to be it, I don’t think they even know what we do tbh. They just sit at home and make sure all our check boxes get checked. But if you mention a single detail of a project beyond “done” or “not done” they get confused. Fucking hell.
And it hurts even more knowing the CEO makes 100x my pay + benefits + stock + who knows wtf else.
What are we doing?
Addon:
Oh! And then there have been layoffs. And cutbacks. And hiring freeze. And no promotion or raises beyond a basic 2-4% yearly “cost of living” raise, even though the cost of living has fucking gone up like 300% in the past few years.
I haven’t actually programmed anything in so long. It’s depressing to be wasted pointless effort in a bureaucratic corporate nightmare.
Weird coincidence, all my hobby code I’ve ever done at home is “drop database” and corrupt system files scripts. If they want them they can have them. 😈
I don’t get how anyone could EVER enforce a law or agreement or rule that says something I wrote at home on my device on my time is theirs. Don’t touch my files with your gross corporate fingers! Ahhh!
I don’t get how anyone could EVER enforce a law or agreement or rule that says something I wrote at home on my device on my time is theirs.
Check your employment terms. I’d wager the first step of that is seeing if you have a paper copy. I know I don’t for all the places I’ve worked or acquisitions I’ve been through.
Something like an ALCU or Second Amendment Foundation that focused on nothing but that would be a nice-to-have. I think it overall destroys creativity in the industry.
No no, I mean, how could they possibly ever know:
A. That I wrote a thing.
B. I did it within a timeframe.
C. It should be theirs.
Etc.
Like, if made “Flappy Bird 2” this weekend and made money on it, how would they ever even know? I did it on my PC, on my time, in my home.
I guess only if I made mega money and they found out, but couldn’t I just say I wrote the game years ago, but just published it now, so it still isnt yours?
I agree with your sentiment, and that the world should work like your hypothetical.
how could they possibly ever know
Lawyers doing lawyer stuff. As to why, you said it:
I made mega money and they found out
We’d have to have real lawyers weigh in, but for the most part I think unless you found an undiscovered market then they won’t care. Programming isn’t unique in the respect that the tools you need to do world-changing work aren’t that different between what you might have at home versus a well funded computer science research lab, but you’re much more likely to stumble into a marketable app than you are a quicker FFT.
gwbasic on an XT here. Automate yourself out of that particular job. If not you, someone else probably will, or some expensive outside consultant will identify it for the chopping block. Find something of more value to do within the company, and slap an AI label on it for good measure. You are in the trenches now and you see the dysfunction… It’s likely the same company-wide, so rife with opportunity.
Automating my own job was what I did do for decades of my career, the problem is that SOMETHING changed in the past year or two. I don’t know what it is or was. AI speculation and fears? Late stage capitalism? The govt? The economy? All of it?
But it shifted pretty heavily from development and code and a desire from all aspects of the company of wanting automation and UIs and scheduled jobs and better reports and just… You know, the useful corporate crap. It used to be in constant demand
It was “boring” because it was corporate pie charts and data, but it was still coding and problem solving and technical and engaged more than 2 brain cells. I enjoyed it. I was useful. It made sense. And it all shifted and is now meaningless bureaucratic corporate bullshit. I can’t tell if ANYTHING tangible is actually being done at the end of the day anymore. It feels like 100% fluff and no meat. Ya know? I don’t feel alone in that feeling either. I think a lot of us are feeling a weird and sudden disconnect.
AI hype and uncertainty is definitely influencing decision making, that’s for sure. If your company doesn’t have strong integrated product and architectural leadership, then managers across the company are probably grasping at straws, hoping to find some meaningful goals and ideas that stick. And lazy leaders, who traditionally rely on Gartner and similar feeds for trends and investment direction, probably think anything AI related is a safer bet than … well, anything else their underlings are proposing.
Hence the need to wrap sound decisions in a layer of AI. It’s BS, and many know it’s BS, but it seems necessary just now.
I resonate so much with a good chunk of that. I legit left my job because I couldn’t take it anymore. My job while different went from negotiating multi-million dollar contracts, and securing pricing agreements with manufacturers to essentially being a spreadsheet jockey after a re-org. They wanted all the interesting parts of my job done by commodity management and reduced my role to something a fucking monkey could do, but asking for 47 different reports that essentially all had the same data just slightly different for dickheads 1,2, and 3 in the C-Suite, and overloading us with so much of it that it took 80 hours a week to complete. It was a fucking nightmare.
I’ve been taking a sabbatical essentially. Living off savings that was supposed to be for a down payment on a house (lol). Got to do a lot of traveling with the kids and I’ve been looking for a similar role elsewhere but haven’t secured anything yet. Thankfully, my wife still makes good money and we’re doing OK financially, but I’m not thrilled about my prospects in my field. It’s hard to be optimistic in a fascist AI hellscape.
I have 3 decades of experience in programming. I started with QBasic on an IBM386. I learned what system files to not delete out of Windows or Linux. I went to university and learned Java and .Net and SQL. I’ve done web. I’ve done server admin. I’ve got decades of Windows and Linux and shell scripting and databases of every flavor and just… All of it.
What do I do lately at work? I fill out spreadsheets with information that already exists in 7 other spreadsheets, but we need this in THIS format for THIS VPs request. And I fill out status updates. And I go to meetings and listen for an hour as everyone talks about their status updates on projects I don’t even know anything about or care.
My manager asks us to make sure we are learning and using AI. Why? Well, the C and VP suites think we should be. Does it actually help or make anything better? Not really. But ok, fine.
And then the real irony kick in the balls. As we push literally everything in the company to be “Cloud This” and “Distributed That” and “AI more!” and “Be flexible !” … and they did the big RTO mandate last year. The fuck? You want everything to be remote and cloud and distributed and modern and agile, except employees must commute in and sit in this specific chair to join their video call meeting. And 3/5ths of my team is out of state and so exempt from the RTO mandate, including my supervisor. What the fucking fuck? I have to drive in and sit in a shitty cube while they get to kick back at home? Fuck that.
Decades of knowledge and experience and talent, and I fill out spreadsheets with duplicate information IN PERSON while coworkers get all the benefits of WFH and the same damn pay.
I don’t even know what my supervisor does except ask us “is XYZ done yet?” a couple times per week, that seems to be it, I don’t think they even know what we do tbh. They just sit at home and make sure all our check boxes get checked. But if you mention a single detail of a project beyond “done” or “not done” they get confused. Fucking hell.
And it hurts even more knowing the CEO makes 100x my pay + benefits + stock + who knows wtf else.
What are we doing?
Addon: Oh! And then there have been layoffs. And cutbacks. And hiring freeze. And no promotion or raises beyond a basic 2-4% yearly “cost of living” raise, even though the cost of living has fucking gone up like 300% in the past few years.
I haven’t actually programmed anything in so long. It’s depressing to be wasted pointless effort in a bureaucratic corporate nightmare.
And depending on the details of your employment, if you code for fun, on your own time, at home, using your own equipment, the company still owns it.
Weird coincidence, all my hobby code I’ve ever done at home is “drop database” and corrupt system files scripts. If they want them they can have them. 😈
I don’t get how anyone could EVER enforce a law or agreement or rule that says something I wrote at home on my device on my time is theirs. Don’t touch my files with your gross corporate fingers! Ahhh!
Check your employment terms. I’d wager the first step of that is seeing if you have a paper copy. I know I don’t for all the places I’ve worked or acquisitions I’ve been through.
Something like an ALCU or Second Amendment Foundation that focused on nothing but that would be a nice-to-have. I think it overall destroys creativity in the industry.
No no, I mean, how could they possibly ever know: A. That I wrote a thing. B. I did it within a timeframe. C. It should be theirs.
Etc.
Like, if made “Flappy Bird 2” this weekend and made money on it, how would they ever even know? I did it on my PC, on my time, in my home.
I guess only if I made mega money and they found out, but couldn’t I just say I wrote the game years ago, but just published it now, so it still isnt yours?
Just seems impossible to enforce.
I agree with your sentiment, and that the world should work like your hypothetical.
Lawyers doing lawyer stuff. As to why, you said it:
We’d have to have real lawyers weigh in, but for the most part I think unless you found an undiscovered market then they won’t care. Programming isn’t unique in the respect that the tools you need to do world-changing work aren’t that different between what you might have at home versus a well funded computer science research lab, but you’re much more likely to stumble into a marketable app than you are a quicker FFT.
gwbasic on an XT here. Automate yourself out of that particular job. If not you, someone else probably will, or some expensive outside consultant will identify it for the chopping block. Find something of more value to do within the company, and slap an AI label on it for good measure. You are in the trenches now and you see the dysfunction… It’s likely the same company-wide, so rife with opportunity.
Automating my own job was what I did do for decades of my career, the problem is that SOMETHING changed in the past year or two. I don’t know what it is or was. AI speculation and fears? Late stage capitalism? The govt? The economy? All of it?
But it shifted pretty heavily from development and code and a desire from all aspects of the company of wanting automation and UIs and scheduled jobs and better reports and just… You know, the useful corporate crap. It used to be in constant demand It was “boring” because it was corporate pie charts and data, but it was still coding and problem solving and technical and engaged more than 2 brain cells. I enjoyed it. I was useful. It made sense. And it all shifted and is now meaningless bureaucratic corporate bullshit. I can’t tell if ANYTHING tangible is actually being done at the end of the day anymore. It feels like 100% fluff and no meat. Ya know? I don’t feel alone in that feeling either. I think a lot of us are feeling a weird and sudden disconnect.
AI hype and uncertainty is definitely influencing decision making, that’s for sure. If your company doesn’t have strong integrated product and architectural leadership, then managers across the company are probably grasping at straws, hoping to find some meaningful goals and ideas that stick. And lazy leaders, who traditionally rely on Gartner and similar feeds for trends and investment direction, probably think anything AI related is a safer bet than … well, anything else their underlings are proposing.
Hence the need to wrap sound decisions in a layer of AI. It’s BS, and many know it’s BS, but it seems necessary just now.
I resonate so much with a good chunk of that. I legit left my job because I couldn’t take it anymore. My job while different went from negotiating multi-million dollar contracts, and securing pricing agreements with manufacturers to essentially being a spreadsheet jockey after a re-org. They wanted all the interesting parts of my job done by commodity management and reduced my role to something a fucking monkey could do, but asking for 47 different reports that essentially all had the same data just slightly different for dickheads 1,2, and 3 in the C-Suite, and overloading us with so much of it that it took 80 hours a week to complete. It was a fucking nightmare.
What did you go to? Still in tech or did you go down the pipeline to gardening or become a cryptid in the local forest that scares people?
I’ve been taking a sabbatical essentially. Living off savings that was supposed to be for a down payment on a house (lol). Got to do a lot of traveling with the kids and I’ve been looking for a similar role elsewhere but haven’t secured anything yet. Thankfully, my wife still makes good money and we’re doing OK financially, but I’m not thrilled about my prospects in my field. It’s hard to be optimistic in a fascist AI hellscape.
Real.
Glad you have the ability to take that time with family, that is awesome!
Yeah, it really is rough right now. Fascist AI hellscape is accurate.