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We have a major global oligarch problem.
we do, but how is that related to Israel acquiring arms?
Because the oligarchs want to turn Gaza into a corporate owned city.
Germany sending weapons there tells me that Germany may well be under the same influence the US is.
That does not follow. Israel and Germany have been trading arms since the 1950s.
These are just mutually beneficial trade deals. No malicious intent regarding Gaza required.
Israel has for example some pretty good air defense capabilities, and in the current deteriorated security environment the German government is justified in continuing weapons trade with Israel.
lol Israel has the greatest air defence that American research and tax dollars can provide. I guess getting those repackaged lemons makes it feel like a fair trade.
Sure let’s collaborate with a settler colonial power. The settler colonialism is replacing one group with, another basically you are fine with the extermination of palestinians because it is mutually beneficial to Israel and germany
No, I’m not basically fine with.
ffs, can we have a bit of nuance? regarding Israel/Palestine, this crowd is absolutely rabid.
The nuance is that israel is the settler colonial power currently exterminating Palestinians from their land and Palestinians are the colonized which unfortunately committed atrocities themselves. It is not nuance to claim both side are equally bad. Similar to how the allies in world war 2 committed ton of atrocities against the axis populations and in the colonized African lands, it didn’t change the fact that it was right to support the allies over the axis .
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WTF are you doing Germany? up to your old tricks i see
They’re trying to master the race to the bottom.
We are part of a genocide… i can’t believe our government approves this…
I can believe it.
> Gives Israel a billion dollars, because they’re so sorry.
> Still elects Nazis.
Edit: Although, Jesus, people are big mad at them in here. Russia and “Belarus” are still the problem, and Germany is still a valuable member of the EU.
Jesus, you are a prolific (“big, very big”) troll for normalizing putler alone – and especially so when normalizing putler’s Russia in comparison to an EU member state. No shame, no clues. Yet - thousands of posts. Omg.
Did you reply to the wrong person?
If not, the edit makes it pretty clear I’m not siding with Russia.
Ok, thanks! That helped 🖐️
What the actual fuck? It seems like no world government is actually carrying out the will of its citizens anymore. I eagerly await a global revolution where we all make it stop.
Yes as long as you vote for a politician no matter what there is zero incensitive to act
That’s so sad… 😑
Fuck.
Welcome to WW3 :)
The US feels like it’s an Axis power, atm.
German people in power dont do a genocide, challenge level: IMPOSSIBLE.
tho tbf it seema most other governments in eu have this brain bug as well. Bibi really got the boomers in a stranglehold
Not just any exports. Includes a nuclear launch capable submarine for one of the 4 countries not party to the non proliferation treaty. Good stuff
Would be much cooler if they also sold 2 billion dollars worth of arms exports to their neighborsto keep everyone happy…
Wrong
Just goes to show…business first! Make Germany great again! /s
Germany: Since 1914 on the wromg side of history.
Oh, come on, that’s one hell of a false equivalency.
Even WWI was basically different colonial empires fighting over colonies. You can’t really call them the bad guys before the Nazis came to power, and while people here will disagree which Germany was the better one afterwards, you probably like one of the two.
1904
Germany is giving israel weapons to exterminate Palestinians
And witholding weapons from Ukraine.
Yes
5D chess
multiple autosomal and uniparental studies find close overlap between Palestinians and regional Jewish groups
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Psychopath. The same can be said for Israel because they’ve lost most of the world’s support, and they’ll be losing the US next.
Cant wait for your turn, twat
Nothing justify settler colonialism, nothing justify genocide
after the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine - Ben Gurion
Attacking Palestinians with submarines?
The naval blockage of Gaza is part of the genocide, so yeah pretty much.
That is also not enforced with submarines.
It is enforced with Israeli naval superiority, of which submarines contribute to.
What do you mean, are saying Israel doesn’t use submarines? Who told you that?
You better believe they have them even if you aren’t aware of their use in sinking shipping.
I’m saying they are not using them in any blockade. Or are there reports to the contrary?
You can bet they use them even if not in a way that has gotten publicity is my ppint, the US would’ve given them some of the most high tech subs in the world, and the tech to retrofit some as nuclear subs, what with all that nuclear material we illegally gave them.
Submarines was not the only things included in this. Why should you have a settler colonial power doing genocide in any shape or form anyway
Don’t comment if you’re not going to even open the article first
Berlin also approved licenses to export military equipment to Tel Aviv, including small arms, ammunition, explosives, and unmanned aerial vehicles.
I have, and the large increase in value, the whole reason for the article, hence the very large picture at the top, is the submarine deal, which is the relevant new thing.










