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We’re going to sit here making memes about irony while they pick us off, one by one, aren’t we?
They’ll offer subscriptions to the ropes on which we’ll hang them.
turned out to be another projection
blue maga seems to project the same way red maga does
“…under capitalism you won’t own anything either, but unlike communism where a largely unaccountable state apparatus will own everything, here everything will be owned by one of several totally unaccountable corporations! So it’s better!”
In communism there is no state. Communism has never been achieved in history, so there are no examples to go off. The ussr was never a communist society, it was a socialist society.
In socialism the state owns things that are shared amungst workers such as roads, factories, hospitals etc. People still own personal property such as phones, toothbrushes, your house.
I’m talking about communism in the way the term is used by capitalist ideologues.
I didn’t realise the sarcasm.
The major difference is that in socialism, the state is accountable to the working classes, as it has to be to actually function.
The comparison was with communism, and because we know China is really more of a capitalist society with a more robust welfare state and regulatory framework, I figured I’d make reference to Soviet Communism, where the state (theoretically) owned everything.
and because we know China is really more of a capitalist society
Wrong.
Is China State Capitalist?
- The backbone of the economy is state ownership and socialist planning. 24 / 25 of the top revenue companies are state-owned and planned. 70% of the top 500 companies are State-owned. 1, 2 The largest bank, construction, electricity, and energy companies in the world, are CPC controlled entities, subject to the 5 year plans laid out by the central committee.
- Workplace democracy in action in the CPC.
- Is modern day china communist? Is it staying true to communist values?
- Didn’t China go Capitalist with Deng Xiaoping? Didn’t it liberalize its economy? Is China’s drastic decrease in poverty a result of the increase in free market capitalist policies?
- Is the CPC committed to communism?
- The Long Game and Its Contradictions. Audiobook
- The myth of Chinese state capitalism. Did Deng really betray Chinese socialism?
- Tsinghua University- Is Socialism with Chinese Characteristics real socialism, or is it state Capitalism?
- Isn’t China revisionist for having a capitalist sector of the economy, and working with capitalists? Why isn’t it fully planned like the USSR was?
- Castro on why both China and Vietnam are socialist countries.
- Roderic Day - China has billionaires.
- What is socialism with Chinese characteristics (SWCC)?
- How is SWCC not revisionist? How is it any different from Gorbachev’s market reforms?, 2
- Domenico Losurdo - is China state capitalist?, 2
- Did Lenin say anything about Market Socialism, or productivism?
- Vijay Prashad - Is China capitalist?
- Why do Chinese billionaires keep ending up in prison? Why are many billionaires and CEOs going missing? China sentences Ex-Chairman of a major bank, guilty of embezzling ~$100M USD, to death in 2019.
Both the PRC and former USSR are/were socialist. Public ownership is/was the principal aspect of both economies, and the working classes control/ed the state. Private ownership in the PRC is only in secondary industries. Communism is a post-socialist society where all production and distribution has been collectivized, and class no longer exists. My comment applies to both the USSR and PRC, the state has to be accountable to the working classes, as it was in the USSR and is in the PRC.
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