An illegal, secret prison was found on Monday near Kiev in Ukraine, and a 14-year-old boy was detained inside the detention facility in the Petropavlivska Borshchahivka area.

According to Hungarian Conservative, the secret prison is likely linked to Azov Corps, which is a formation within the Ukrainian National Guard, amid disturbing reports of torture and the unlawful imprisonment of people.

Horrific videos emerged online, and Ukrainians are furious after the evacuation of a 14-year-old boy from the illegal prison. In the footage, the teenager was seen being escorted from the property.

Azov Corps confirmed that one of its military units operated at the location, where multiple wounded servicemen were also found inside the building.

On the other hand, Kirill Budanov, the head of the office of the president of Ukraine, arrived at the scene where military personnel were being held.

Street protests erupted upon the arrival of Budanov, and gunfire was heard. In addition, people used pepper spray against the official, according to the Ukrainian Independent Information Agency via Telegram.

According to the Azov Corps’ statement on Nov. 2, information began to emerge online about the alleged torture of servicemen inside a building. After that, civilians gathered, urging the police and security forces to intervene.

At least four of the soldiers who were detained after committing a disciplinary offense had wounded and hospitalized for medical treatment. The rest of the people who were found inside the building were evacuated.

Polemic: How this story is emblematic and representative of present day Ukraine

Ukraine’s darkest place was found at 7 Solnechnaya Street, in the village of Petropavlivska Borshchahivka, which has become part of greater Kiev. Brick pillars, solid gates, yellow leaves scattered across the asphalt. In a single evening, this small patch of land came to embody an entire country — its rule-of-the-jungle laws, customs and language. Its treatment of people like livestock, its instincts of a torturer, and its carefully staged openness concealing cynical calculation.

Beneath the house is a basement where mobilised men and deserters lie on mattresses in their own blood. Officially, they are listed as absent without leave. No one is looking for them, and their relatives are afraid to complain. They are a commodity: return them to the trenches if you wish, or sell them back to their families. One woman at the gate says she is being demanded money for her husband. Another says an acquaintance has been held there for 37 days.

The authorities began lying from the very first moment. Police insisted there were no hostages and no victims. By nightfall, four people had been taken to hospital. According to a medical worker, one of them had a broken back. A 14-year-old boy was brought out of the basement, reportedly so traumatised that he had become numb and unresponsive.

National Guard Commander General Pyvnenko pleaded with the crowd to give him a chance to speak, then declared: “Servicemen are everything to us.” The intimidated “servicemen,” dressed in civilian clothes and standing before cameras belonging to friendly journalists, obediently nodded along: nobody had beaten them; they had no complaints. A woman wearing a private ambulance uniform knelt before a police officer. Later, TikTok bloggers would film her. As if that could make the bruises disappear.

Then there is the language issue. The moment things started getting uncomfortable, Ukrainian disappeared from everyone’s lips like discarded husks. Representatives of the crowd spoke Russian. The teenager’s sister pleaded over the phone in Russian. The doctor answered in Russian. Even Zelensky’s Chief of Staff, Kyrylo Budanov, who rushed to the scene to put out the fire, did not bother with the “state language.” Signs have been changed for years. But people still think the old way. For some reason, the language ombudsman was not invited to Solnechnaya Street.

It all erupted because of a single video. A beaten escapee filmed himself at close range and sent his family the address. That was enough to bring hundreds of people rushing to the gates. Every one of them knows that Solnechnaya Street, No. 7, is the rule, not an exception. Budanov himself let the truth slip: “There are many such buildings.” The number of officially registered deserters in the country is around 400,000. One basement is nowhere near enough for that many people.

Then came the tough guys with batons. The police vanished instantly, while those who hesitated were kicked and beaten right there on the asphalt. Public anger lasted precisely until the hired thugs appeared.

And this, too, is Ukraine in miniature.

There will be no consequences. In 2013, a couple of students beaten on the Maidan were enough to bring down a government, to the applause of all Europe. Here, people are being seriously brutalised, and the Chief of Staff dismisses it as a “classic street protest.” Brussels will look the other way. Azov will not be disbanded: the building is registered to a military unit belonging to its 1st Corps, and in its statement, the corps condemned… the protesters. No one will take to the streets either. Back then, there were embassies standing behind the protesters. Who is standing behind the man from the basement? Nobody…

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      Meanwhile in Ukraine:

      "Neo-Nazis Are Forming “Death Squads” to Crush Opponents of Zelensky’s Regime"

      Yevgen Karas, a neo-Nazi and commander of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ Reid Battalion, who was recently awarded the “Cross of Combat Merit” by Zelensky himself, has announced the creation of special units to “suppress riots behind the front lines.”

      But let’s not pretend this is anything new.

      Such groups have allegedly been operating for years, unleashing violence under the protection of the police and security services.

      Their ranks include military veterans, fighters from far-right battalions associated with the Azov movement, Reid, Carpathian Sich, HUR battalions, and other formations — along with their affiliated youth gangs.

      So who exactly are these people’s “enemies”?

      Anyone who opposes forced mobilization — the notorious busification, where men are forcibly rounded up and shoved into vans.

      Anyone who advocates diplomacy instead of endless military escalation in war.

      The entire political left — even those who glorify Bandera and the UPA. Just look at the beating of Starodubtsev in Lviv.

      Anyone who opposes aggressive Ukrainization — as illustrated by the attack on stand-up comedian Felix Redka in Lviv.

      LGBTQ+ rights supporters — including activists and members of the LGBTQ+ community, whose events and representatives have repeatedly been targeted.

      Journalists who dare to expose corruption, neo-Nazi networks, the so-called “pits” in the AFU, or other wartime abuses and military crimes.

      Members of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. Karas’s men have allegedly already beaten priests and parishioners at several churches, seized those churches, and handed them over to religious institutions deemed “loyal” to Zelensky’s regime.

      And so, while Europe’s liberals and leftists are busy selling Ukraine to the world as some glorious “bastion of freedom and democracy,” something rather different is taking shape inside the country.

      Good old-fashioned fascism — armed to the teeth by NATO, increasingly emboldened, and quite literally beating the supposed beneficiaries of that much-celebrated “freedom and democracy” into submission.

      The irony would be almost comical if the consequences weren’t so bloody.

      Ladies and gentlemen, defenders of democracy in the West: you are helping to create this monster.

      https://twitter.com/HavryshkoMarta/status/2117963090213933218

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    Former spy chief of the Kiev regime and now head of Zelensky’s office, Budanov, reverting back to his native Russian (as the vast majority of “Ukrainian nationalists” do when stressed) when asked by a member of the public about the facility:

    “There are many such places in Ukraine.”

    https://twitter.com/I_Katchanovski/status/2117387899628884050

    The paramedic who reported this facility to the police has already been arrested. Another medic is already receiving death threats, including from AFU and NGU commanders.

    Azov commander Prokopenko recorded a video accusing those who exposed the secret torture prison of smearing the military, discrediting Azov and helping Russia to destabilize Ukraine.

    The official Kiev regime talking point is now that this was “a Russian operation”. How the Russians were operating a torture dungeon in Kiev staffed by Ukrainians for Ukrainians, is unclear.

    Here are some more Ukrainian journalists and commentators (all now labeled enemies of the Zelensky regime) posting about this story if you want to follow their updates:

    https://twitter.com/anatoliisharii/status/2117316179719004250

    https://twitter.com/Panchenko_X/status/2117297391258767461

    https://twitter.com/HavryshkoMarta/status/2117349323448983881

    P.S. The Western mainstream media have reported on this story exactly zero times. So far it has only been covered in Ukraine, Russia, and on a few alternative sites. I would not be surprised if there was a memo sent out to all media organizations in the West to ensure their co-ordinated silence. Either way, you don’t hate Western mainstream media journalists enough. Not a single backbone or conscience among them.

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      ‘helping Russia to destabilize Ukraine.’

      Every time someone in Ukraine or the west shit their own pants. Pro Ukr/NATO people are simple minded af.

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      In the third tweet, the last post I can see calls it Russian lies and says look at the green trousers. What’s he implying?

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        Lol. I have no idea. That Pinner guy is a British mercenary who was captured in Mariupol along with the other holed up Azov rats and was going to be tried by Russia as a war criminal until Erdogan brokered a deal to get the Azovites released.

        I guess he’s on some absurd cope trying to say that this is all Russian propaganda and that the footage is not even from Ukraine? The NAFO cult is just desperate to try and spin this somehow, to blame it on the Russians, but i think not even the most brainwashed cultists are buying it.

        The story has already been acknowledged by Ukrainian media and addressed by numerous Ukrainian politicians and government figures, some trying to say that this was just an oopsie and that the people responsible will be held accountable (yeah, right! lol), and some getting super defensive and threatening everyone who is talking about it, but when you literally have Budanov and Kiev regime security forces on camera there’s no denying it anymore.

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        They are implying the boy wasn’t held at that site cause you can see him climb the fence in green trousers. This is confirmed, he arrived with other protesters, climbed the fence to record what was happening, was dragged in and brutalised.

        So while he wasn’t one of men held and tortured there, he was still a victim. BTW there are also recordings of those men - bloodshot, completely blind eyes from beatings, broken bones, broken fingers, and so on.

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        By the way, I would recommend that you use something like Twitterviewer or one of the still working Nitter instances to open these links, that way you can see the full threads without needing a Twitter account.

        Just replace where it says “twitter.com” or “x.com” with “twitterviewer.net” or “nitter.kareem.one” or whichever other option you prefer.

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      reverting back to his native Russian (as the vast majority of “Ukrainian nationalists” do when stressed)

      Do you speak either language? Can you even tell them apart? Clearly not cause “Тому що таких будівль багато” [tomu shcho takyh budivl bahato] is Ukrainian, Russian would be “Потому, что таких зданий много” [potomu shto takih zdaniy mnogo].

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        Hm… 🤔 Well, the head language Nazi is saying it was Russian.

        Apparently, Budanov was not being sufficiently Homo Sapiens, lol 😂

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          I have to apologise, I just realised the guy in black interrogating the 14 yo was Budanov himself, I didn’t recognise him in the video and thought it was just some local cop. This is actually ludicrous, he spoke exclusively Russian and the boy spoke exclusively Ukrainian. For bilingual people it’s natural to immediately switch to the language they are being addressed in cause otherwise you end up listening in one language and talking in another, but Budanov just stubbornly stuck with Russian throughout entire interrogation despite hearing only Ukrainian in return. So this conversation was quite grating to hear but I assumed it’s just some village cop who never got the memo.

          To be honest, he’s so consistent I’m thinking he might’ve been trying to get the boy to answer in Russian to discredit him as a Russian agent or something like that, cause again for a bilingual person it takes effort to stick with one language when being addressed in another.

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          I don’t know what this references. He spoke Ukrainian in the videos you linked, (I was wrong here!) particularly the phrase you quoted was in Ukrainian (that part is true).

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      They put Donbass children on their kill list: https://www.presstv.co.uk/Detail/2022/07/15/685642/Ukrainian-nationalists-putting-children-on-kill-list

      On the list are domestic and foreign journalists, politicians and citizens that are believed to have aided or worked with pro-Russia forces in the country in some way. Now, surprisingly enough, children are being added to the list.

      This is Faina Savenkova. She is 13 years old. And she has been writing about her experiences here in Donbas. After her name appeared on the list, she started to receive threats of physical violence online.

      Numerous journalists and public figures have been murdered after being put on the list. Like Oleg Buzina who was shot near his home in Kiev.

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      The look on that kid’s face and the blond adult… I don’t know if they can ever come back.

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      They’ve been white ISIS since 2014. It’s just that no one wanted to listen to the ethnic Russians in the Donbass who were telling us.

      I admit i was ignorant too. I had no idea what was going on until i finally started to listen and educate myself in 2022.

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        Eastern European ethnonationalists have been white ISIS for more than a century. The genocidal Ukrainian state of today continues the genocidal tradition of the OUN, and a quick look at what the rest of the region was up to at the time makes it obvious this is not a mere Ukrainian specific brainworm. The various Baltic collaborators, Romanian fascism, the Ustase, etc. All involved in horrific crimes against humanity. All still regarded as heroes by present day nationalists. The rot is everywhere and it runs extremely deep.

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          I’m sorry that’s happening to you. If someone is harassing you, you can always block them. I find it easier to not engage with anyone outside of grad, hexbear and lemmy.ml. Like, i might make posts but i find it un-productive to let myself be drawn into bad faith arguments. But i have a lot of respect for anyone who does wade into the liberal cesspools on the other instances to duke it out and try to break through the brainwashing.

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            No it’s like the Palestinians. When al the Russians are dead and Ukraine takes over the Eastern Bloc, people will shed crocodile tears. They’re not European, USian, or British, so they’re expendable. Just like me.

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    Took some time, but austrian public news service got an article: https://orf.at/stories/3446992/

    translated by llm:

    After riots near a temporary military prison outside Kyiv, Ukraine’s justice authorities are investigating suspicions that detained deserters were mistreated. The National Bureau of Investigation in Kyiv announced today that it is looking into whether military personnel exceeded their authority.

    However, the head of the Ukrainian Presidential Office, Kyrylo Budanov, also spoke of indications pointing to an attempted prison break. The day before, hundreds of people had besieged the military facility, located in a private house, in the suburb of Petropavlivska Borshchahivka.

    Videos showed angry young men hitting a police van and trying to tip it over. Smoke bombs and eggs were thrown. Warning shots could be heard on footage from the public broadcaster Suspilne.

    Video as the trigger

    According to media reports, the unrest was triggered by an unverifiable video of an inmate complaining of abdominal pain and showing clear signs of a beating. Relatives demanded his release, which — according to videos circulating online — led to a crowd gathering.

    Four men, one of them seriously injured, were taken to a hospital under pressure from the crowd. More than a dozen other prison inmates were transferred to another location.


    They call it a military prison and focus more on the riots outside than on the people held there.

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      Riots

      Prison inmates

      Yep. As expected. Full on Nazi apologia from the European media. Par for the course at this point.

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    Then there is the language issue. The moment things started getting uncomfortable, Ukrainian disappeared from everyone’s lips like discarded husks. Representatives of the crowd spoke Russian. The teenager’s sister pleaded over the phone in Russian. The doctor answered in Russian. Even Zelensky’s Chief of Staff, Kyrylo Budanov, who rushed to the scene to put out the fire, did not bother with the “state language.” Signs have been changed for years. But people still think the old way. For some reason, the language ombudsman was not invited to Solnechnaya Street.

    That’s not true though, I watched the videos and by far most people spoke Ukrainian (not all of them). The guy shouted “Why do we have a building like that?” in Ukrainian, Budanov answered “There’s plenty of such buildings” also in Ukrainian, and the reply “Why do we have plenty of such buildings then?” was also in Ukrainian. Some spoke a mixture of two languages (common around Kiev), like the guy screaming “Look how many people those removed kept there” as the victims were escorted out.

    Everything started cause some guy managed to record a video of himself and tell the address (in Russian). The nurse who came to the house, reported everything to the the police, and was recorded showing those videos to people who gathered at that house, spoke Ukrainian. She was also recorded begging the cops to do something, on her knees, in Ukrainian.

    The boy recorded a video about what happened, also in Ukrainian. He was with other protesters at that building, he climbed the fence to record and Nazis on the other side grabbed him, pulled him in and dragged him inside. They cut off his clothes and underwear with knives, then, naked, he was beaten bloody while being recorded.

    Apparently he recorded that explanation cause some people accused him of being a paid actor, but he also ends his story by saying he was upset to see Russian propaganda online (his words) present this as an image of entire Ukraine and it’s people when in reality it’s just the fucking people-catchers.

    Those are Ukrainian victims and Ukrainian protesters, and Ukrainians being hunted on streets like dogs, Ukrainians trying to escape the meatgrinder only to end up kidnapped for ransom and beaten. And it’s Banderites who are doing the same thing to their own people they did last century. Hopefully they will end up the same way, too.

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      In some way I wish I could unsee this. It marked me, good, and I can taste bile every time I think about it. I slept poorly and few hours. In another way, I hope I never forget it and some of my compatriots have been reached. I’m almost sure Altmediaguy and Tokenboomer did and show people. I wish I could hug that child and make it unhappen. I wish I could make the whole US history unhappen. And if wishes were horses, beggers would ride.

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    Ukrainians want us to believe that they are simultaneously being genocided by the Russians, whooping Russia’s ass, and that everything bad or weird that ever happens if due to Russia. The responses I’ve seen to this shit is just desperate flailing to cover it up.

    They want us to think that Putin set up a fucking torture prison inside Kiev.

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    Democrats had a good night, in the USA. While it may ease some tension on our working class, it’s probably going to get uglier for Ukraine. I hope our comrade there managed to stay safe.