Some of the worst people in the country. I was raised evangelical, even the folks I know who were decent on an interpersonal level would never consider voting for anyone other than Republicans.
Well I guess the American tradition of Televangelism set the stage for a grifter, pedo, rapist president.
those faces have seen a LOT of cocaine
I think you mean Jesus Dust. Cocaine is what the sinners abuse.
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There’s a sucker born every minute. We call them Evangelicals.
Born again every minute.
They were obviously fake to me as a child but adults fell for all their BS, and adults still fall for it today from different creepy criminals. Same dualistic, small, tribal minds that choose to stay wrong.
Other people will rightly focus on the evangelical part, but I want to emphasize how important “whiteness” is to the equation. Black Christians don’t do this shit.
The through-line of Trump support is white supremacy. And white evangelical Christianity has a well known problem with white supremacy and white/Christian nationalism.
It’s vexing why Christians would admire Trump in the first place because he’s just about the opposite of everything they claim to value. But if you think of them as white supremacists first, everything makes perfect sense.
100%. It’s unfortunate that more attention isn’t paid to the “Southern Strategy” - started by Nixon but honed and perfected by Reagan. It was basically a massive counter-revolution where whites hated that black Americans were granted civil rights, marginally improved economic standing, and more broadly there’s at least an attempt to put whites and blacks on an equal footing. This sort of white supremacy was sort of laundered through evangelical Christianity but yes, it’s whiteness first. The “Moral Majority” began as movement to fight the government from removing the tax-exempt status for private Christian schools that practiced racial segregation, for example. While white evangelical Christianity does predate the reaction to the Civil Rights movement, I think it’s fair to say that this white supremacy is the foundation for modern white evangelicalism.
The southern strategy was most honed by Bill Clinton. He, (and Hillary) were absolute ninjas with the southern strategy. “Super predator” anyone? Nixon and Reagan told people what they wanted to hear. Clinton’s politics swung a scythe through communities of color and incarcerated people en masse. Just look at the actual numbers. This is not a soapbox, it’s a history lesson. And you know was right there by his side? Blue dog Joe Biden and prosecutor Kamala Harris.
Clinton didn’t have clean hands, but compared to what Nixon and Reagan did, it was small potatoes.
The War on Drugs devastated not only white stoners, but minority communities. So did attacks on social services. Both originated long before Bubba arrived on the scene.
serious, Its time and time again that it needs to be said loud and clear, no one need to hear that both sides BS, Yes we still have many dinosaurs in office that are not perfect and do not have an absolute clean past. But lets not keep throwing the baby out with the bath water like 2024 election, thank the sky daddies and mommies that folks like you didn’t both sides this last election .
I guarantee that if they fucking ban fox news from playing on US military bases then there would be a major shift on veterans.
It’s wild to me that those suckers and losers continue to support Trump.
Guess he just “tells it like it is”
Not all of us do.
The country is still underestimating the damage fundamentalist White Supremacist christian extremism can and will do.
The terrorism will be ongoing for years, even decades.
These people have a person in a position of trust and authority telling them a few times a week that the Democrats are going to force you to have a trans litter box in your living room. They are completely divorced from reality.
I think the particular characteristic of evangelicals is that being divorced from reality and isolated from dissenting voices is exactly what they aspire to. The more obviously wrong a position is, the more giddily you hold to it. It’s all a test of faith. Reality is the devil’s domain.
The reason white (and Hispanic) evangelicals are so popular with fascists is that they have been identified by analytics as one of the most gullible of populations.
They are completely divorced from reality.
I saw a sticker on an electrical junction box yesterday: “END RACISM AND HATE: stop voting for democrats”. Had to rub my eyes and blink a few times.
Jesus, some demographics are dumb.
I see what you did there…
Of course.
They’re in an apocalyptical death cult.
When threatened, they get more insane.
The white uneducated male still supported the GOP by and large even if they moved towards blue slightly. The only reason why majority of the men voted for the Dems is because of young men and non-white men especially the black men. It’s the young, non-white, women and the educated who saved the day. Also in the senate race in swing states the majority of men still voted for Republicans https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/elections/voter-trends-national.html
Speaking as an old white man: I’m sorry. I don’t like us either.
Cults work like that.
All the white evangelicals I have known have been the worst people I have ever met. I’ve never met any of their nasty fundamentalist jewish or muslim counterparts in countries they control, but I bet it’s an abrahamic thing.
yhwh just makes everything worse the closer you get to him. The only good followers I’ve ever known ignore like 75% of their religion’s commands.
but I bet it’s an abrahamic thing
I’m no fan of imaginary friends in the sky, but it’s a human thing. Consider the gentle Buddhists in Sri Lanka and in Myanmar, having committed genocides against Tamils and Rohingya Muslims, respectively. And let’s not forget the massacres of Indian Muslims by peaceful, vegetarian Hindu extremists.
And if you think it’s only the religious who do atrocities, consider the Holodomor and the Great Leap Forward.
Power is the problem, exacerbated by the human propensity to believe what they’re told.
I mean, people kill people, that’s true. One can still say nuclear weapons are a huge, unreasonable danger though. Just because people kill people in other ways, and did it before nukes, doesn’t change that truth.
If only Evangelicals were really Christians.
The god of the Bible is vengeful and narcissistic. An authoritarian asshole, much like Trump.
I hear there’s a sequel to the Old Testament.
Yeah, that’s the one they apply to themselves, while lashing out at everything around them while screaming from the first one.
In which not one jot or tittle of the [old testament] is invalid before the Earth is destroyed.
In other words, everything horrible in Yahweism 1.0 carries on into 2.0 and 2.5 (though 3.0 disavows 2.0). Or you can ignore the plain language there, but then there’s no reason for anyone to listen to (or not interpret away) any fraction in particular at all if the answer is just “the bits I find convenient are correct”.
Depends on which bit of the New Testament you’re looking at, and particularly, who’s talking. Old JC generally sounded pretty strongly wedded to the Torah (as did his brother James who later ran the Church in Jerusalem), but St Paul wanted to move on from it and open up the religion to gentiles.
The Old Testament that is used today has not yet been decided upon until quite some time after the probable span of time in which Matthew was written, we actually do not know for certain what texts are referred to here.
It is true that the Bible does not have a single message, and contradicts itself often, so Christians necessarily pick and choose, even if they don’t want to admit it.
The Old Testament that is used today has not yet been decided upon until quite some time after the probable span of time in which Matthew was written
The Torah was fully locked in long before that time. The haggling was about the status of some of the other books of the OT (some of which Christians still don’t agree on, either).
That is true, but it is still not known if Jesus was referring to the whole Torah, parts of it, or to some other law we don’t consider. We do not know his stance to other jewish sects at the time, other than his dislike of pharisees. My point is that it’s all just pick and choose, there is no single voice or historic certainty or any of the sort
They’re no less Christlike than many other Christians throughout history.
The change in men under 30 is impressive.The question is whether that’s a lasting change.
That group is voting on the fact that their economic horizons have become so limited (job market sucks, housing prices are way too high, etc). If Democrats can address those concerns, it could be lasting. If they don’t I imagine they could whipsaw back to Republicans.
They’re not rational utility-maximizers voting in their own economic interests. They’re authoritarian enablers getting a sense of tribal belonging by doing what they’re told. Some of them have a conflict between these two impulses, but some are so far gone that they’ll do whatever they’re told, even if it destroys their livelihoods or even lives.
and that is why GOP leaders, donors,abd foreign influencers need to be brought out into the light and cleansed VS being able to slink back under a rock only to crawl out after some time passes and the public is primed for ultra BS culture wars backed by religious bigotry. Crimes against humanity have been committed, many have defrauded the US people in plain sight and these truths must be laid out and dealt with. I don’t need vengeance but we must defend, heal, and move forward.
That’s kind of the answer for everyone. We’ve just been bouncing back and forth between the two parties because neither has reversed the decline in people’s economic outlook. The system, left in place, makes life worse for almost everyone and our choices have been between “lies and then nothing happens” and “lies and accelerates the decline”. Since they both let (or encourage) the decline, whoever can more credibly lie, usually whoever isn’t in power, gets the vote.
we are labeled a flawed democracy, we do not have equal representation because of two main reasons, Gerrymandering allows politicians to pick who votes for them and how districts maps are drawn in ways to disenfranchise voters. The Heritage foundation wrote the citizens united law allowing unlimited dark money to flow into elections in response to Obama’s grass roots funding successes. We are faced against fascist and oligarchy along with social media worming any and all crazy ideas into the heads of soft impressionable populations.
As I said in another post: the mandate for Dems is: “Make sure the last 2 years can never happen again!” There is so much low hanging fruit to support that goal, but now we gotta watch which the Dems blow this once in a generation opportunity. (Repubs are evil, but Dems are incompetent)
The problem with that is that what they’re responsive to is perceived decline and perceived progress. And the MAGA crew are also highly motivated by spite, and would happily let Trump shit on their kids’ breakfast as long as they thought it might hurt an immigrant, black, brown or queer person.
Those issues affect everyone though so why they have to be lil beotches about it still doesn’t make sense. Also, if they want those things to improve, and have any critical thinking ability to understand what actually works, they would not vote maga. Since they haven’t bothered to learn any of this yet, I doubt they will. They want to benefit from being white guys, the privileges we do get, I know, but I still vote for Dems and stand up for liberty and justice for all! We still have advantages, but those guys are selfish and want all the advantages.
The reason that former US allies are still not going to trust the US after this vote is that after the absolute shit-show that is a Trump presidency with a GOP house and GOP senate, 50% of American men are STILL voting Republican.
And, that’s the vote. That’s not the people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the GOP this time, but stayed home rather than vote Democratic.
It’s just a matter of time before the US swings back to MAGA again. If that happens the US might once again renege on its treaties, threaten allies, start wars, and break international laws.
Though almost nothing is impossible, almost nothing is inevitable either.
I was wondering who still voted R a few days ago here on Lemmy; I surmised that it was mostly Christian fundies.
Nailed it.
They’re the absolute best at denial and tolerating (celebrating?) dirtbag pederasts.
Do you see that huge drift of independents to left? That’s why you won. We’re the largest voting block of them all (according to Pew and everybody else)
Willing to die in the foxholes they dug right up Trump’s ass.
Maybe those people are simply evil and revel in it as well.
