What could go wrong?

  • Spice Hoarder@lemmy.zip
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    3 hours ago

    Who the hell is still using Ubuntu!? Stop it. There is no good reason. Everything Ubuntu does is an anti pattern, that makes you a lot worse off than if you had just used Debian with flat packs. Need system stability? Thats what immutable is for. Do shit in user land, don’t touch system files if you don’t know what you’re doing. There are no reasons to use Ubuntu.

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    6 hours ago

    Hold up, forget the ai factor for a second… They’re putting security fixes behind a paywall? The thing you get free with every other distro? That’s the big business plan?

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      5 hours ago

      You get 5 years of updates on the regular LTS releases and then 5 more years for free (up to 5 machines) with the ESM Ubuntu pro subscriptions before needing to pay for the legacy coverage that does cost money.

      So I can see this being reasonable considering no other distro offers 15 years of support.

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        3 hours ago

        The way you describe it does sound like a good thing. However considering every distro offers free upgrades to their next supported version the advantages are somewhat moot.

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      10 hours ago

      Sadly the only distro I’ve been able to get working on my refurbished rugged dell 5420… (18.04 so I’m having to rely on their pro subscription (free) for security updates but I’m not turning on that new source for sure) Otherwise I’d be on windows 11 so even Ubuntu is a win as this is essentially just a thin client anyway.

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        9 hours ago

        Ubuntu is definitely better than Windows.
        But being allergic to the shenanigans of Windows and Microsoft, makes one very cautious of the practices of Ubuntu and Canonical.
        It kind of smells the same, although the reek from Windows is stronger.

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        9 hours ago

        I think I saw you post about this the other day, and I wanted to ask you if you had tried older builds of fedora. Or Debian

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          9 hours ago

          The ESM model for debian and no LTS on fedora won’t work for my uses sadly. If I go far enough to get to the right kernel version I lose basic security updates.

          Gonna try messing around more with driver options today so maybe I can get back on the Debian train.

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              5 hours ago

              That’d be the regular 5420 and not the 5420 Rugged but I’ll still give Arch a shot.

              Nope. No luck. Crashed right away after getting to the terminal. Would probably work with “nomodeset” like all the others but I can’t live with a sunlight readable screen at full brightness lol

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                What’s the crash error messages? nomodeset just tells the kernel not to load video drivers and uses BIOS/UEFI modes instead (until your display server starts).

                It sounds like you’re missing the right graphics driver for your machine.

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              7 hours ago

              OK, flashbacks to my first experience with Red Hat in 1995.

              Back then, Red Hat 2.0 was distributed only as source code. There was a workflow pipeline between a couple of tools they provided that would allow you to download the code, compile it on your machine, and then create floppy images. You could then use to use the floppy disks to install red hat onto your system.

              For those of us lucky enough to have Internet access in 1995, on my 14.4kbps modem, it took several days to download. Then another 2 1/2 days to compile. Then it was 9 floppies, 13 if you wanted to install printer drivers. The whole process took me a week and a half before I had a stack of red hat 2.0 install floppies.

              It took over an hour to install, but that was typical for operating systems back then that required installation from floppy disk.

              The worst part? About two months later, red hat 2.5 was released with pre-compiled binaries and floppy images. I can honestly say that I was traumatized by the experience, lol.

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              8 hours ago

              Arch BTW…

              A little known distro, because most people are too shy to admit they are using it. 😋

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        9 hours ago

        Why not use an Ubuntu spin that doesn’t pick all the upstream bs? Not sure if Pop_OS, Mint, or Zorin will be free from the AI crap, but I know spins like Pop exist because they don’t like 100% of what Ubuntu is doing

          • Bev's Dad@lemmy.ca
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            5 hours ago

            Have not tried mint yet but when it fails I either get a kernel panic, freeze + flashing caps lock or the Dell light flashes the CPU error code.