TikTok says it’s not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine — The company denied allegations that it has been promoting pro-Palestine content in an effort to sway American opinion::In a blog post, the company denied allegations that it has been promoting pro-Palestine content in an effort to sway American opinion.

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      Here’s how you actually “manipulate the algorithm.”

      1: take up residency in the comments, and at the same time start a few basic accts that don’t say anything too controversial (day in the life kinda stuff, thirst traps, etc). Establish a basic presence

      2: once you amass a following, you start with pretty basic stuff lots of young people agree with - housing/healthcare reform, work reform, etc

      3: an important part a lot of people miss - have your own team troll your comments. Stir up shit. The goal is to get people riled up, not move the needle in any specific direction

      4: throw out something big (it’s been confirmed that Russia is behind distribution on TikTok of OBL’s “Letter to America” recently). Fight on both sides, tagging in as much of the greater sphere of commenters as you can.

      That’s it. That’s all anyone’s doing. Just do this over and over and you eventually drive people crazy.

      They did the exact same thing in 2016, they did it in 2020 with BLM, they did it with Ukraine. It’s nothing new

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      Yet we’re not seeing calls for Hamas to step down and let innocent Palestinians live in some version of peace that can never be known under Islamic jihad…

      Which I find very weird. The lack of conversation surrounding the admitted goals of the leaders of the Palestinian people is something that needs to be part of any conversation.

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        Because they’re not going to do that. You can’t call them terrorists and expect logical reasonable action or reaction.

        The Palestinian people by in large did not vote Hamas in, over 50% of the people in Gaza were not alive during the last election.

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          Because they’re not going to do that. You can’t call them terrorists and expect logical reasonable action or reaction.

          So we shouldn’t call them terrorists and hope they stop killing people? I’m sorry that doesn’t make any sense. Israel isn’t about to stop their war on Hamas, yet it doesn’t stop the world criticising them.

          The Palestinian people by and large did not vote Hamas in, over 50% of the people in Gaza were not alive during the last election.

          While technically true, almost 70% of Gazans support armed attacks on Israeli civilians.](https://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll 89 English Full Text September 2023.pdf) I know it doesn’t fit the oppressor/oppressed narrative, but the vast majority of people in Gaza support what Hamas is doing. If elections were held today, according to that same poll, they would vote Hamas back in.

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    Algorithm probably plays a sizeable part in that, but as an older gen Z fella I have become indifferent to both countries of this conflict. Both Israel and Palestine just race with each other who can check the most boxes in the Geneva Convention rules list. Just leave those 2 to sort this mess out for themselves, It’s not like we get a Holy Site bonus effect by owning Jerusalem.

    Or just put a stop on this, but this is a naive thinking.

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        To be fair to them, it’s not as though the Israel Palestine conflict is black and white. It is pretty well known to be one of the most complex conflicts in human history.

        Just about any statement that isn’t very well researched and laboriously constructed is like 95% likely to be reductive to some and offensive to others.

        I’m sure someone reads this post as reductive, and I am only tangentially referring to the conflict.

        Edit: beyond this comment we see people continuing to try to distill a multigenerational war down to a paragraph. Brilliant. Y’all should start writing history books since y’all have such a firm grasp on it all!

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          It is pretty well known to be one of the most complex conflicts in human history.

          It’s really not. It’s a land grab by a colonist ethno-state that drummed up some bullshit about that land being their destiny when they really came from what is now known as Iraq (and honestly who cares where). They intentionally make the issue “complicated” by putting ethnicity at its center, making even valid criticisms of this colonization punishable as a hate crime. But in the end, it’s not confusing. It’s just a land-grab wrapped in an ethnic/religious skin sort of like a Trojan horse.

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          No it’s perfectly simple: Hamas, Kahanites and the like are fascists and ruin it, on both sides, for everyone, with their warmongering.

          The only real mistake you can make in this conflict is see it as “Muslims vs. Jews” or “Palestinians vs. Israelis”: It’s decent people all over against assclowns and even entertaining those two “vs.” there is playing right into their hands.

          Side note: Did you know the victims of the Hamas attack were largely Smolanim? Hippie Kibbutz kind of people, travelling into Gaza doing good work, just like those next to the West Bank travel into it to help Palestinians with olive harvests to make it less likely they get shot at by Settlers. Netanjahu and his Kahanites couldn’t give less of a fuck about them, which you also see reflected in them ignoring their families, they’re like the #1 critics of the government right now.