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For context, as a writer at The Atlantic described it:
The negotiators displayed mainly incompetence, as well as cringeworthy servility to their master in the White House. Trump’s part, though, was pure malignity. Shortly after the meeting ended, he criticized Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, lied about the latter’s polling numbers, and said, in a particularly callous remark, that Ukraine had had a seat at the table for three years. How being invaded and having your civilians tortured, raped, and slaughtered counts as a seat at the table is beyond understanding.
Putin has repeatedly said that Zelensky is illegitimate and would not negotiate with him. Guess who isn’t invited to this particular set of negotiations?
The US has opened negotiations in a strong position by giving one side everything they asked for, to the point that the Russians are trying to figure out what else they can get away with.
When Trump eventually concludes negations it’ll be every bit as hollow as Bush standing on an aircraft carrier with a mission accomplished banner behind him. Trump will demand a Noble prize, just like the one Obama got. Peace will not be achieved.
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Speaking to those in the USA,
There is much more going on with the Ukraine / Russia war than what the media here told us. Most people make opinions about it, not even realizing that they aren’t informed enough about it to have an opinion.
It is more complicated, many people don’t know about the years before and the power struggles between oligarchs, riots, and assassination plots (it’s wild to me to just hire someone who has tried to kill you before). The media fails to give the proper context to put the events into perspective. However, Russia still invaded Ukraine without any reasonable justification, and this was an incredibly disingenuous thing to say.
Its not disingenuous, you just said yourself “many people don’t know about the years before and the power struggles between oligarchs, riots, and assassination plots…”
And yes I agree, the media fails to give context. I think that’s because they (mainstream news for example) are more interested in getting you to take a side, than they are just giving you the information.
How is saying “Ukraine started the war” not disingenuous?
Sorry, never mind. I misunderstood that part of your previous comment!
Vague statement from you, what details are you going to give us?
Not going to get into it now, but I’ve personally spoke with so many who have had opinions on it, and its clear they know very little about what has happened there over the past 10 years, and what has led up to the current situation.
It was Obama and Clinton not zelensky. Zelensky was merely their tool