Well put Mr. Tusk.

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    And Germany is taking on 1 trillion Euros in new debt to protect against Russia, which is currently spending less on its military than the EU, while fighting a war.

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          Sorry, are you talking about Poland? Then yes, Poland is part of NATO and there is US presence there, I’m not sure about other countries having a presence there. I thought you meant Ukraine, which is not part of the NATO.

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              Most every Russian troop being killed is via drone. Something like 96% of those drones are produced in Ukraine. Funding a war is expensive, especially when you are vastly out numbered population wise. Of course they want as much aid as possible.

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                  Not by a long shot. Even Ukraine only claims in the region of 800,000 casualties on the Russian side, the majority of which are wounded not dead.

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                  Where are you sourcing that from? (That’s way higher than most are claiming for either side) Also, that has nothing to do with what we were talking about

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    Is Russia going to invade Germany? Do people really think that’s what’s going to happen?

    Imagine saying that with a straight face

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    Intent aside, wouldn’t it be easier to shore up current defences? Ukraine is already the NATO crumple zone, it would make more sense to keep them at that line.

    Now for blind conjecture. Perhaps trump sold out Ukraine to allow Russia to have the minerals and oil of Ukraine. In exchange, Europe gets the constant threat of WW3. Americans, scared to stay where they’re at, but are more terrified by the prospects of open war as it sweeps across countries, stay on American shores.

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      I don’t like referring to people fighting for their culture, society, family and future as a “crumple zone”.

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        Seriously, what in the lack-of-empathy did I just read? Empathy isn’t that hard. Imagine you lived there. Your loved ones. How would you feel about it then?

        Edit for grammar.

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          Empathy might be hard. It just depends on the Person, mental state, perspective, etc.

          If empathy would be easy, then why did Trump win?

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            Because propaganda hits harder. They have empathy for the poor kids that are being forced to be transgender and gay by their parents. They have empathy for the people losing their jobs and being raped by immigrants.

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              Kids that are being forced to be transgender and gay by their parents

              Mate, I think whatever propaganda you’re talking about, worked.

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    Nobody is begging. Politicians are using “defence” as a leverage to enpower and enrich themself