Serious answers only. For over a year I was told that trump “doesn’t have anything to do with that”.

I honestly need to know from an actual Republican who believed trumps words and is now witnessing p2025 almost hit 50% completion with the department of education getting dismantled.

And with that; how do these people feel that public schools, daycare centers and tech schools all going to cost 3-6x as much as it does now for tuition?

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    I still don’t see them as Trump’s actual plan.

    I’m like one of three conservatives here, do you really expect a response?

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        Trump’s plan is an attempt at putting America’s economy back on track. Protective tariffs, less “aid” to foreign nations, deporting illegal immigrants, not acting like the world’s police when it’s Europe that will be affected most, that sort of thing.

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          How do you rectify the idea of not being world police with:

          "I have signed a declaration to use emergency authorities to expedite the delivery of approximately $4 billion in military assistance to Israel. "?

          Or is that somehow different?

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            Because Israel is literally the only liberal country in the middle east, relatively speaking. If they can expand their influence, less women will be oppressed, less gay people will get thrown off buildings, and Jewish people won’t be massacred until there’s none left in the middle east.

            And why are siding with Hamas and Hezbollah? Do you hate LGBT people? Do you just hate women? Do you just want to see the aggressors win?

            I bet you didn’t even know that they’ve been attacking this entire time. Just yesterday, Hamas fired 3 rockets in an attempt to kill more civilians. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2dr7jd7mno Or maybe you do know and you like killing civilians?

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                To some extent. We need a good ally in the middle east. I’d say that Germany should be the one footing the bill, but they’re not a particularly reliable ally when it comes to military funding.

                Israel is a pretty unique case, and they’re surrounded by those who have done harm and wish to do more harm to us. It’s not a great position, but it’s the one they’re in.

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          Contributions to global organisations is what is known as “soft power” - for example, the only time NATO article 5 has been invoked is by the USA after 9/11

          And guess what - every other country stood up and came to America’s defence. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a pretty good deal to spend a few million for the billions you get back in cooperative agreements with the rest of the world.

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          First of all, the economy was doing fine under Biden.

          Second, how is removing links to POC and female soldiers on the Arlington cemetery website getting the economy back on track?

          How is banning the words “female”, “women” and “bias” in research papers getting the economy back on track?

          How is sending researchers abroad questionnaires about their opinions on trans people and climate change getting the economy back on track?

          How is taking away the passports of trans people and changing their gender getting the economy back on track?

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            Was it really do well, or was it doing well for the rich? Because all I ever heard on Lemmy was that they were broke and oppressed by the system.

            And the whole dei shit was a badly worded EO compounded by bad actors upset with the EO. You should actually read the EO if you’re curious, it’s not long. He did not ban any of those words.

            How is that something to mention? It sounds so minor, I doubt he knew of it. And getting advice from a variety of people is a good thing and probably helped. Why are you against it?

            They are not taking away passports. If you read the damn article, one transman had trouble renewing his, and the bureaucracy was taking it’s time figuring it out. I ran into the same damn thing when I renewed mine two years ago, and I’m cis. Not every single issue is because of your identity. Sometimes shit happens.

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      i was hoping for a response yes. and really hoping for an actual intellectual as well.

      so what makes you think it isn’t trumps plan? even though you can follow the progress online of p2025 and trump is checking off each objective.

      what do you see p2025 as? and do you think it will make america “awesome again”

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        so what makes you think it isn’t trumps plan?

        They’re an idiot, duh

        Their name is eerily close to a reference to a famously horrible and Nazi-infested (like, actually) instance, especially given their previously discussed viewpoint, so they’re probably also a Nazi openly lying about their beliefs

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        I see Trump’s plan as Trump’s plan. P25 holds some similarities, some things are just that obvious, like illegal immigrants should be deported, but it’s not Trump’s plan. P2025 is it’s own thing, some wishlist created by some think tank that got picked up by the news because it’s so stereotypical.

        I think that Trump’s plan is an attempt to put America back on the right track economically.

        Protective tariffs for instance, are a pretty standard way of protecting domestic industry. It’s expensive to comply with OSHA and labor laws, it’s a lot cheaper to make stuff in China and ship it over here. Tariffs make it so that it’s no longer cheaper. Bernie Sanders agrees, even if can’t directly agree with Trump. https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-statement-on-trump-tariffs/

        Does p25 have anything on tariffs? No, they don’t.

        P25 does have stuff on things like racial discrimination, which no politician in their right mind would support.