Reddit thinks that it has so many content creators that it can sacrifice a lot of them to keep others in line. Not sure in a big perspective, but so far Reddit has succeeded in what it is doing.
we’re the product, not the customer. reddit doesn’t own anything of value that we can’t have for ourselves or do for ourselves here, or on other, non-reddit communication networks. they didn’t want us to leave, they wanted us to change behavior to match their vision. instead, we’re here, having this conversation away from their influence. we won this small victory in a grander fight against hypercapitalism. the real challenge is that the banks choose winners and losers
Wrong. Reddit has a tremendous amount of diverse information. Lemmy is empty. It fills the hole for most basic news and stupid memes, but that’s it. Lemmy doesn’t have technical information. Technical dialogs (the only variant of useful dialogs) are impossible here.
that we can’t have for ourselves or do for ourselves here
Staying put and giving Reddit money is the real loss. We fundamentally disagree about what the fight is and what winning looks like. Also I don’t know where you’re reaching your conclusion that there’s no technical information here. We have wikis, we have discussions, we have high quality interactions. But the core essence of how we think we take the power back on the internet is different, and we’re not ever going to overcome this, so I think this is the end of the conversation
Maybe if I was the only one that left there would be some logic to your statement. Fact is a lot of people are leaving the corporate owned entities. On top of that I am actively advocating to people I know to leave them as well and taking the time to introduce and even provide support to them to make the move.
… by losing. They won.
what do you mean?
They wanted you out. They got what they wanted. They win.
…wait, something doesn’t feel right.
Reddit thinks that it has so many content creators that it can sacrifice a lot of them to keep others in line. Not sure in a big perspective, but so far Reddit has succeeded in what it is doing.
So Digg used to think as well.
we’re the product, not the customer. reddit doesn’t own anything of value that we can’t have for ourselves or do for ourselves here, or on other, non-reddit communication networks. they didn’t want us to leave, they wanted us to change behavior to match their vision. instead, we’re here, having this conversation away from their influence. we won this small victory in a grander fight against hypercapitalism. the real challenge is that the banks choose winners and losers
Wrong. Reddit has a tremendous amount of diverse information. Lemmy is empty. It fills the hole for most basic news and stupid memes, but that’s it. Lemmy doesn’t have technical information. Technical dialogs (the only variant of useful dialogs) are impossible here.
Oh yes. We can. But we don’t.
Running away isn’t a victory.
!selfhosted@lemmy.world
Staying put and giving Reddit money is the real loss. We fundamentally disagree about what the fight is and what winning looks like. Also I don’t know where you’re reaching your conclusion that there’s no technical information here. We have wikis, we have discussions, we have high quality interactions. But the core essence of how we think we take the power back on the internet is different, and we’re not ever going to overcome this, so I think this is the end of the conversation
Like hell it isn’t a victory. You love Reddit so much, get the fuck outta here
Maybe if I was the only one that left there would be some logic to your statement. Fact is a lot of people are leaving the corporate owned entities. On top of that I am actively advocating to people I know to leave them as well and taking the time to introduce and even provide support to them to make the move.
You’re hugely overestimating the size of that “leaving”.
When I say a lot, I am referring to my 5 imaginary friends.