Mod removed my comment because it questioned the core premise of a meme.
I don’t think such a comment should be removed.
post: https://piefed.world/post/361286
Account that had deleted comment: !muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com
BPR and YDI.
I remember your server admin, just a user back then, participating in an attempt to spread exploding-head’s crap on the threadiverse through the inactive rammy.site after they got massively defederated; framing trans people as groomers and shit.
Your kind of dIvErSiTy should have stayed on Nostr.
Maybe BPR but PTB nonetheless. You should give people the benefit of the doubt until they’ve removed said doubt. Asking someone why they feel a certain way about a topic when they’ve just posted essentially a reaction meme to it is innocent enough.
Also, if it was the post’s OP that removed the comment after it was essentially advocating for tolerating diverse views then that’s kinda funny.
It was in fact the post op that removed the comment.
(I mod that comm, but didn’t remove that comment)
YDI, you were clearly trolling.
What rule did I break? Plus I wasn’t trolling.
Which rule did he break, sweetie?
Yeah there are a group of people on lemmy who really like to have paternalistic control of both narrative, and thoughts. Which is somewhat antithetical to the very nature of federation.
So in the meme.
- Anyone can join the fediverse!
- Ohh, no… anyone can join the fediverse
then asking “Why don’t u like diversity?” is asking someone to come to terms with their dichotomous view of the fediverse, a place for anyone includes everyone. Some people are not ready to come to terms with that.
In general - I think it’s not a great idea for a moderator to remove comments from posts they have made themselves, even if they can keep themselves objective, it doesn’t look that way. I say this fully admitting I do it myself (because I mostly run super tiny communities).
The rules for the community
Rules - General
- Be respectful
- Post on topic
- No bigotry or hate speech
I don’t think OPs comment breaks any rules.
There is diversity and there is hate groups. If you can’t tell the difference, maybe it’s time for some self-reflection. I’m not sure if I would have removed it, but I don’t think it was unjustified.
PTB. Some mods are really butthurt about just anything.
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Hilariouschaos is the renewal of exploding heads, it attracts monsters like flies (or something like that, parent deleted their comment so I’m paraphrasing)
Can someone show me the hate on hilariouschaos that makes them monsters? They have been censured on fediseer, I think unfairly - each censure is a supposition about what they might do, not what they have done on hilariouschaos. When I look at the instance itself I don’t see hate or antagonism, they are not combative like hexbear.
I personally think if a group keeps their crazy into !crazythoughts@instance and then goes out into the fediverse acting as good citizens and respecting posted community rules… then thats fine, they are good fediverse neighbors.
Censures - https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/detail/hilariouschaos.com - None of this point to something the instance itself did. Most of the censures are blank… It’s not reasonable to censure a instance for predicted behavior, and its really unreasonable to just echo a censure without doing a investigation “i.e. the n/a censures”
Their admin action modlog looks reasonable :
- https://hilariouschaos.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&modId=4
- https://hilariouschaos.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&modId=2
Update - I’ve made a dedicated fedigrow post on HC and their censures and defederation.
They are a bit of a nazi bar afaik. I think it’s pretty well established, do you really need us to look up specifics?
Their admin is an open transphobe.
You also say that about me… : https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&modId=3&userId=1364396 That is a position I disagree with, obviously I don’t think I am.
It would be helpful to see content on HC that demonstrates why they are discriminated against and censured so widely
do they export their beliefs to your instance, and cause trouble for your people?
And here you are, sealioning.
Interesting.
And here you are, sealioning.
Interesting.
That is reductive thinking - we are in a moderator review discussion which requires us to look at both moderator and commenter actions.
In this discussion the grand parent commenter used the users instance as a factor, and I’m asking for evidence for the instance censures, which is reasonable. If we are saying being a member of a instance is enough to get moderated then its reasonable to establish, WITH EVIDENCE, that the instance censures are based on actions rather then speculations.
Asking a question in good faith is not sealioning. You really really need to learn how to use that word correctly.
I can’t show you specific examples but my block list is filled with users from that instance. They seem to attract shitheads for some reason.
Fair enough, but to understand the impact of your block list, I need to know under what circumstances you would block someone?
I block rude people, bigots, and tankies or fascists. i have noticed hilarious chaos as the instance of a bunch of the users i end up blocking. Their url is rather unique and sticks in the brain.
Here is hilarious chaos’s TOS: https://www.termsfeed.com/live/2df34e41-7192-4df8-bfc2-c311fe60a35a which they post under their legal section off the main instance landing page.
Content Restrictions
You may not transmit any Content that is unlawful, offensive, upsetting, intended to disgust, threatening, libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable. Examples of such objectionable Content include, but are not limited to, the following:
- Unlawful or promoting unlawful activity.
- Defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content, including references or commentary about religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups.
- Spam, machine – or randomly – generated, constituting unauthorized or unsolicited advertising, chain letters, any other form of unauthorized solicitation, or any form of lottery or gambling. …
- Violating the privacy of any third person.
The TOS seems reasonable, and second point seems to go against the censures accusations.
They have been censured on fediseer, I think unfairly - each censure is a supposition about what they might do, not what they have done on hilariouschaos
Lots of Lemmites are obsessed with censoring people for what they “might do.” It’s getting freakin’ crazy lately. lol
I believe many of the censures came to being as a coordinated effort to isolate the instance as it was one of the first that allows speech that doesn’t tow the lemmy party line.
From the interactions I’ve seen on my community on hc all the vile activity has come from outside instances.
I was not aware there was a ‘lemmy party line’, especially considering the origins of lemmy and its devs
