LOS ANGELES (AP) — Actor Gina Carano has settled her federal lawsuit against Lucasfilm and its parent The Walt Disney Co. over her claim that she was fired from “The Mandalorian” in 2021 for expressing right-wing views on social media.
The specific terms of the agreement were not made available.
“Ms. Carano was always well respected by her directors, co-stars, and staff, and she worked hard to perfect her craft while treating her colleagues with kindness and respect,” Lucasfilm said in a statement. “With this lawsuit concluded, we look forward to identifying opportunities to work together with Ms. Carano in the near future.”
The two sides stipulated in a federal court filing Thursday that the case should be dismissed with prejudice, meaning it can’t be refiled. A judge still needs to formally dismiss it. The case had been scheduled to go to trial in Los Angeles in February of next year.
The lawsuit, filed in a federal court in California last year, alleged Carano was wrongfully terminated from the “Star Wars” galaxy Disney+ series after two seasons due to a post likening the treatment of American conservatives to the treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany. Her posts were widely criticized online and spurred a trending #FireGinaCarano hashtag.
GOOD JOB GINA!
I 100% agree that such hate toward people based on their political views is unhealthy! I love your example of concentration camps as an extreme of that path! I may not agree with other rightwing beliefs like antilgbtq or ice, but you nailed this and it totally trandscends political leaning. Lemmy is an example of the Left side where such hate is fostered and reinforced. You can see it in the comments and the feedback. There are also Right areas fostering just as much hate the opposite direction.
As you hint, that becomes dangerous to a minority when the majority has too much power. I bet many on Lemmy would have no qualms about throwing all righties in camps and removing their power to affect anything. I bet many righties feel the same toward lefties. Who knows, with such hate so acceptable, how far a party with total power could go.
I watched mandalorian up until you left because I need a strong female protagonist to identify with and love the confident aura of power you bring.
Keep being yourself! Let the haters just make you stronger. And 100% that ‘hate is acceptable instead of respect’ is noteworthy and something to fix about this world. At least not all people are disrespctful :) and a few real connections are worth more than all the no-ones passing by.
Watching Scorched Earth today and can’t wait to see what you make next!
That sarcasm/satire is top notch. Colorful, emoji name. Deadpan delivery: not a
/sto be found. You, sir, are next level.Sorry, I just disagree. When you become a public figure you represent the company, and what you say reflects on them.
I’m a civil servant for a small municipality, and if I posted this stuff, I’d be called into HR right away. If I was the lead on a show, I’d expect far stricter rules.
She has a right to say what she wants, but not a right to be employeed by Disney
What happens when someone’s political views are hateful?
They settled for 75k.
It cost them less than their attorney bills to tell her to shut up and go away, than to fight this idiotic suit.
the treatment of American conservatives to the treatment of Jews in Nazi German
Ohh no, are conservatives being targeted by federal police and dragged into concentration camps surrounded by alligators with access denied to local authorities?? Right, Miss Thang. You tell them how it really is. 🙄
She literally made that comment while posting a picture of a concentration camp, so yeah, that’s exactly what she was claiming. Who knows what she thinks of alligator Auschwitz now. Wouldn’t bother asking though, but I do wonder what Pedro Pascal thinks of it all.
we look forward to identifying opportunities to work together with Ms. Carano in the near future.
I thought words like “identifying” are considered hate speech to these trogs
With this lawsuit concluded, we look forward to identifying opportunities to work together with Ms. Carano in the near future.
Sounds like corporate speak for “this cow is never working with us again”.
Disney has refused to work with streamers that literally used to work in their parks, over a single mid comment made more than a decade ago, that no one cared about at the time, and even the modern witch hunts don’t care about.
Gina’s comments are much worse than that. She will never work with any company or group related to Disney again, and that’s like 2/3 of the movie and TV industry now. Her career is dead. The next step will be some right wing TV interview appearances and then joining ICE like Dean Cain.
She brings nothing positive and unique to the table that ten thousand other up and coming actors without the baggage can provide at a lower rate.
Yeah, I think this is more valuable to her as conservative bonafides than anything. “I stood up to libral, woke, Disney and won!” will probably play great fox news and the other rocks these folk thrive beneath. It’s a further step in a career in the rightwing culture-war bullshit sphere, not back twords Disney.
Don’t sell her short, I’m certain she could also find a few minor roles in direct-to-video Christian movies.
Maybe the long awaited sequel to 1,000 Dolls?
DISAPPOINTED
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I’m sure she is banned from all Disney parks if she ever attempts to go in. The facial recognition they use is no joke.
the what
They also have a feral community of cats that keep the scavengers to a minimum. Oh, and a staff-only rec room inside the Matterhorn prop. Among other crazy-ass things, away from public view.
Dear god
Yeah, don’t even get me started on how buddy-buddy ol’ Walt was with the Reich… 🤮🖕🏼
So she’s a horrific monster, got it.
Hilariously, she brought brought very little to the table in the first place.
I had a boner for her 🥺
It’s little… but still something
Can’t reason with those. Still, I am disappoint.
She does porn on chaturbate now, have fun.
Speak less
Verpiss dich Fledermaus
गप रे आयघाल्या
I very much disagree with what she said, but I’m also not ok with her being fired for expressing herself. Freedom of speech (the concept, not the law) should go both ways.
I know many people disagree with that, but that’s ok. People don’t need to agree on everything.
Edit: everyone seems to be talking about a bunch of other stuff she said. All I was aware of was that she posted some tweet about the “gov pushing covid vaccines were like Nazis” or some other nonsense. Which is incredibly stupid, but far from the worst thing ever said.
I thought she was fired for that one tweet.
Freedom of speech (the concept, not the law) should go both ways.
There’s also freedom of contract, freedom to decide when services you pay for are no longer wanted.
A duty to allow someone to express themselves doesn’t obligate you to keep buying their services.
Then you dont disagree with what she said, you are literally defending it in a multiple paragraph comment. Freedom of speech makes hate speech okay, really???
Sure you can say whatever you want, but you arent free from consequences of said speech. Why are you defending far right nonsense anyway?
This is so incredibly stupid. This is not what free speech is. Why are some people so incredibly ignorant?
Insignificant education.
At some point they or their family got the idea that freedom of speech meant that you can say anything you want anytime and there would never be repercussions for any of it.
Hundreds of corrections later mean absolutely nothing to indoctrination.
I think even free of speeches at the end of its rope these days though. We’re about to enter 1984.
Insignificant education
You’d be wrong about me.
At some point they or their family got the idea that freedom of speech meant that you can say anything you want anytime and there would never be repercussions for any of it
Also wrong.
In your edit you stealth removed the section where you said you thought she was denied freedom of speech.
That is an education problem 100%. That’s not a minor misunderstanding.
It’s not even a hot take. Even if she was fired for that single tweet it still would not been an encroachment on her freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech requires that the government can’t stop you and the government can’t make laws that stop you.
Randall Monroe even made a handy comic to help you remember this.
It’s alright. Research/investigate, reflect and grow. I learn something new every day and try to grow as a person. Embrace the opportunity.
Freedom of expression is not freedom from consequences. Too many people seem to think that is the case. Sure, the government shouldn’t be able to retaliate, but that doesn’t mean everyone else has to just go along with what was said.
I am guessing that you treat people differently if they say something you find offensive.
Isn’t being treated differently because you said something offensive a consequence? Or am I not understanding the meaning of what you said?
Yes, that’s exactly the point. There is always the potential for consequences, no matter how small.
Freedom of expression is not freedom from consequences.
You’re absolutely right.
I am guessing that you treat people differently if they say something you find offensive.
Treat them differently? No. But I’ll call them out for sure. I’ll tell them they’re wrong or even a moron. But I won’t treat them differently.
Brother in Christ, calling them out, telling them they’re wrong or even a moron is treating them differently.
And if someone you know says racist shit, and you don’t treat them differently, you’re racist too. You don’t get to share drinks with a Nazi without becoming a Nazi.
Treating people differently because of their beliefs is entirely valid depending on their beliefs. If you think pancakes are better than waffles, that’s one thing, if you think transgender people are mentally sick and don’t deserve rights (or any LGBTQIA+, any race, any nationality) then that’s an entirely different thing.
True unbiased neutrality only benefits the worst side of humanity.
I don’t consider calling someone out “treating them differently”, because I would do the same to anyone who says anything stupid. If you don’t say stupid things, then I don’t need to call you out. That’s not the same as treating them differently.
And if someone you know says racist shit
I’ll call them racist, tell them they’re horrible, and not hang out with them.
I think we’re agreeing on the fundamentals, but disagreeing on terminology.
You’re holding everyone to the same standard: Don’t be a racist asshole, but you’re treating people differently depending on how they meet that standard.
That’s a good way of phrasing it. Thanks.
That being said, no matter who I’m dealing with I always try to be respectful. So when I say I call someone out for being racist I don’t mean I call them a POS, I mean I outright tell them it’s disgusting and not ok, all the while being a respectable person.
Except Gina Carano, you havent called her out yet and are actively defending her. So you are either lying or full of shit.
No, we’re not agreeing on the fundamentals.
I don’t break bread with Nazi’s, I don’t respect racists, and I don’t make friends with homophobic people.
If anyone came out in support of fundamentally evil concepts and I had the power to fire them, ostracize them, or make them feel unwelcome I would. You fundamentally disagree with that because you believe in true neutral freedom of speech, seemingly void of any meaningful consequence.
I think there’s something to say about giving people space to have bad ideas and to try and heal them through their evil perspective, but I think if someone is a full blown racist they should be treated like full blown racists. You old a bad opinion, but I’m trying to explain why it’s bad so that you can improve your perspective and do more good for the world.
So I’m trying to be clear, we do not agree. If someone is racist, you shouldn’t defend their beliefs and give them space to espouse them. If you do that, you allow those beliefs to grow. This is freedom of speech with consequences for your beliefs and actions. This is an ultimate good for society. Some idea and actions are toxic to society but play on base human instincts - like the “other” as an escape goat. Those ideas need to be socially and financially punished as much as possible because they’re an easy disease to spread that hurts everyone. Racism and anti-Semitism and anti-lgtbqia are these concepts that allow evil people to falsely attribute the cause of societal problems to marginalized and less powerful groups. And the problem is it works, it plays on base instincts, and thus the best vaccine against them is education, experience, and harsh punishment for holding those beliefs.
You have to start believing in protecting your community by abandoning the belief that anyone should be allowed to say and believe anything without suffering any consequences.
I don’t break bread with Nazi’s, I don’t respect racists
Ok, but neither do I.
I don’t make friends with homophobic people.
I don’t exactly go out of my way to make those kinds of friends, but it’s not exactly on my questionnaire when making new friends. However, I happen to know quite a few people that could be called homophobic.
But instead of writing them off, I try to be patient with them. If the topic comes up then I discuss it calmly, point out flaws in their thinking, and share my point of view.
If anyone came out in support of fundamentally evil concepts and I had the power to fire them, ostracize them, or make them feel unwelcome I would.
Then you are part of the problem. When people’s beliefs are so starkly attacked, they will get their backs up. That’s basic human psychology. Every person has a desire to feel belonging. So when they are attacked like that they will seek out validation with like minded groups. And that will only serve to reinforce their thinking and create echo chambers.
I’m trying to explain why it’s bad so that you can improve your perspective and do more good for the world.
I think you really don’t understand my perspective.
If someone is racist, you shouldn’t defend their beliefs and give them space to espouse them.
I absolutely do not, and at no point here on Lemmy (or ever in life) have implied that I defend someone who is racist. Where are you even getting that from?
This is an ultimate good for society.
Not in the way that you hope. All that will happen is those people will learn to hide their beliefs and will share them with like-minded people. And over time those ideas will spread.
Being patient with those kinds of people allows them to empathize with your viewpoint and associate the mindset with you yourself. But if you are aggressive and punitive towards them, then they’ll feel justified in their position and solidify it when they talk about it with their friends.
You have to start believing in protecting your community by abandoning the belief that anyone should be allowed to say and believe anything without suffering any consequences.
See, I never said no one should have consequences. So I have no idea why you took what I said to that extreme.
I very much disagree with what she said, but I’m also not ok with her being fired for expressing herself.
This is you defending someone who was anti-vax, politically conspiratorial (general Fox flavor, vote was rigged), and mocked people specifing their pronouns against consequences for sharing those opinions.
Beliefs that hurt her community, that hurt the marginalized, and that she was happy to continue expousing and expanding upon on conservative podcasts and channels after being let go.
Idk why you’re acting like you’re not defending her or saying she shouldn’t suffer consequences - this is literally the basis for this thread. Your bad take about this situation.
Nazi’s should feel threatened for holding their beliefs. If that person were my dad or my friend, I’d offer understanding while trying to work them out of their horrible beliefs - but boy would that be a short rope. Even now, I’m trying my best to talk to you about this topic with kindness. Despite none of my comments or any other in this thread seemingly penetrating.
You are defending this actress against suffering consequences for her beliefs, including dangerous anti-vax beliefs and borderline anti-lgtbqia beliefs. Are you now denying what you wrote? Or have you changed your mind? Or where is the misunderstanding here?
First off, for context, this is apparently the quote:
"Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors… even by children.” The actor continued to say, “Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?”
And this image:
…And actually sympathize, to some extent? The first quote sounds like bad misinformation + a conservative victim complex, but still, the sentiment isn’t overtly anti-Semitic.
…But I still disagree.
Speaking out like that in your personal life is one thing. If Disney fires someone for their political views, they should get their butts sued to oblivion.
But shouting to millions of people on Twitter, on an account inextricably tied to and leveraging one’s professional life, is done at your own risk. Disney has every right to protect their image, whatever that may be. She mind as well have done this from Disney’s PR department.
Social media is not a fair, open forum, and not one’s personal space.
Well… that’s very different. I wasn’t aware of all that stuff.
If Disney fires someone for their political views, they should get their butts sued to oblivion.
And this is more or less what I thought the situation was.
Thanks for the context
Yep.
It is complicated though. The conservative view is now basically the opposite, aka “celebrities shouting on algorithmic feeds” counts as protected speech, even among private enterprises, but quietly denying someone business is a personal choice.
It reveals she doesn’t understand (or worse, does understand and purposely picks the shitty side) the difference between the people committing the crimes and the people they attack for no reason.
That’s the issue, that she’s stupid enough to be so plainly evil. Not that talking happened.
Ya, I’m seeing now that everyone has been talking about something else entirely than what I thought it was. It took several back and forths with someone to finally get to the heart of it. All the while almost everyone was hurling insults at me instead of trying to be decent.
Which is ironically the point I was trying to make in many of my replies. That instead of attacking someone you think you disagree with, talking with them patiently goes much further.
which is ironically the core of her point: there is too much hate toward people based on their political views.
She’s free to express herself. And Disney is free to not work with people that make certain opinions publicly that they disagree with.
Disney not getting rid of her sends the message that they agree with those comments.
She’s free to express herself. And Disney is free to not work with people
Absolutely true.
Disney not getting rid of her sends the message that they agree with those comments.
Absolutely not. That’s such a divisive stance that it borders on extremism.
Should a doctor not treat someone they disagree with? Should laws not apply to people that politicians not agree with?
It’s entirely possible to work with someone and disagree with them at the same time. If Disney was so concerned about public perception they could have put out a statement to the effect of:
“While we at Disney disagree with recent statements put forward by Gina. We acknowledge that she’s been a valued member of the Mandalorian cast. We hope that she changes her viewpoints in the future.”
And let’s not pretend that Disney is concerned about treating people properly. Look at how they outright hide any dark skinned person from all the marketing material in China.
Edit: can’t spell apparently
And what about Disney’s right to not hire her again? Wouldn’t that be freedom of speech “going both ways”? Or did Disney become the federal government while I was sleeping last night?
Think about what you’re suggesting. What, that Disney is somehow forced to consider her for roles?
And what about Disney’s right to not hire her again?
Entirely their right and decision.
Wouldn’t that be freedom of speech “going both ways”?
Absolutely.
Or did Disney become the federal government while I was sleeping last night?
I know you’re being facetious, but seeing as how massive of a corporation Disney is, you could make the argument that Disney or more like a government than an average company.
Disney is somehow forced to consider her for roles?
Sounds like something a Sith would do.
Entirely their right and decision.
That’s free speech.
I doubt she was pleasant to work with, seeing what she posts online.
You can’t make such blanket conclusions about someone based on a few things they said. Supposedly she’s a very nice person according to people that had worked with her, but take that with a grain of salt.
Freedom of speech is typically about the government. In this case I don’t know if they were filming in CA, but since she filled it in CA it’s the only state I know of where “political affiliation” is considered a protected class. “Woke” California protecting people from private consequences,huh? Honestly people view them as a lot more leftward than they are.
Political affiliation is NOT a protected class in California.
What on Earth are you talking about? Seriously, you’re whole rant looks like something the president would tweet.
I could have sworn it was ten years ago when a guy sued google over it and it wasn’t the guy between 2016 and 2018. It was either 2013 or 2014(from where I remember being when I heard about it, I was somewhere else so the timeframe was cleared to me) but I can’t find it, and I thought a lot of people at the time said it was a protected class in CA. I can’t find it now. I may be miss remembering or some changed. As for it looking like something the president would tweet: I was trying to make fun of that kind of thing in the second half.
Freedom of speech is typically about the government
I literally said “the concept, not the law”.
While Disney had the right to fire her or not, I didn’t agree with the decision to fire her. I also vehemently disagreed with what she said.
Unfortunately with it settled out of court, we won’t ever know what the final result was. Hopefully Disney made her whole after wrongfully terminating her.
She had no fucking case. Being a piece of shit is a valid reason to terminate someone.
Nazi lives don’t matter
A Nazi is a Nazi is a Nazi. Get fucked.
She wasn’t wrongfully terminated, lawsuits are just more expensive than settling.
Nah, you fucks are so fucking reprehensible I’m siding with Disney. I hope she never gets an acting role again after her vile display.
She does porn now, but not really in an “acting” capacity, unless you count faking orgasms.
She wasn’t looking for a ton of money. I saw a report that said 75k usd.
Because she knew she doesn’t actually have a case.
Taking it to court would cost both sides way more than that, and she would have to pay her attorney’s win or lose. As far as I can see, they did not take the case pro bono. A case against Disney would cost millions. Settlements like this are always about the fastest and lowest cost solution.
she would have to pay her attorney’s win or lose
Possibly. The courts will often order the loser to pay the winner’s attorney’s fees. In such a situation, Disney would be looking at not only paying their own layers, but her lawyers, and the judgement amount on top.
A case against Disney would cost millions. Settlements like this are always about the fastest and lowest cost solution.
Yep.
Disney was never going to lose though. But considering Musk said he would back up Carano, that would have taken forever and that would have bothered the multiple Mandoverse projects like the movie that’s coming out like next year or something.
