The Force Awakens and its follow-ups had so few memorable characters, it’s a wonder Disney – and Oscar Isaac – are still talking about potential spin-offs

The Force Awakens and its follow-ups had so few memorable characters, it’s a wonder Disney – and Oscar Isaac – are still talking about potential spin-offs

    • Ilandar@lemmy.today
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      2 months ago

      Snoke was just a Emperor re-tread

      Well yes, but wasn’t the 7th film a reboot of the 1st? It doesn’t matter whether it was a good idea initially or not, the point is that changing your mind halfway through about who the big villain is doesn’t leave you with enough time to establish a proper replacement.

      it also reinforces Kylo’s path to finish what Vader started and do something Vader failed to do: supplant his Dark Side master.

      This is a third act story beat that happened during the second act. The reason why the Vader storyline works is because it has nearly three films worth of development before its big climax.

        • Ilandar@lemmy.today
          24·
          2 months ago

          you falsely decided he was the big villain

          I guess you watched some alternative universe version of the first two films, because Smoke was 100% the big bad until he was killed off. You literally just acknowledged him as an Emperor re-tread lol

            • Ilandar@lemmy.today
              14·
              2 months ago

              him being an Emperor retread doesn’t necessitate him being the big bad. it’s just means he’s evoking notes of a previous character.

              “Evoking notes” of the previous character…who was the big bad.

                • Ilandar@lemmy.today
                  14·
                  2 months ago

                  But you said J.J. Abrams was being “unoriginal” with The Force Awakens. In other words, copying the original film/trilogy. In the original trilogy, the Emperor is clearly the big bad and this is established in the first film. So if Smoke is the equivalent of Palpatine, as was also established in the first film of the sequel trilogy, he is clearly the big bad up until Rian Johnson kills him off prematurely. Your core argument here doesn’t line up.