- cross-posted to:
- justpost@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- justpost@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29035971
Posting here for preservationās sake
Image in removed comment was the attached Palpatine image. Curious to see if the same admin mod would remove these screenshots if I crosspost them to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com , which they also admin and mod. Would I get a fair trial there or will my dissenting and othersā be silenced?
You canāt say youāre against disinfo if youāre knowing and intentionally promulgating it and abetting its usage. They also didnāt even remove the Reddit watermark.
This is why I donāt assign identities unto myself, because you criticize one action done wrong by leaders of an ideology or movement and bam! youāre shut out of it completely. Theyāve lost the aid of an ally and progress is impeded by being shorted a participant trying to correct the course.
Tell activitypub to stop putting db0 AI slop on my instanceās All front-page, then. Itās not brigading. If you donāt want interaction with the outside world, stop federating with it.
Thatās not activitypubās fault.
You can block the instance in settings, or block individual communities.
Iām not blaming AP, just refuting the absurd brigade claim.
I donāt think its brigading, because lemmy is small enough for most people to encounter the same posts.
I do think its better to just block people and comms which use ai.
Itās possible that not all of it is brigading but when 10 or 12 accounts with no content at all or content thatās old as heck come to start downvoting I think itās safe to call that an act of brigading, which is my Iām saying there is brigading.
Yeah, though those could just be lurkers.
Thank you for acknowledging that. And you may be right about blocking.
I just think itās difficult for folks, me included, to merely hide what they consider to be an issue. Theyāre not comparable, but if I saw a self-proclaimed leftist community sharing anti-union propaganda, Iād rather discuss it. Iām not claiming thatās the healthiest mindset or the correct one, but I donāt think itās entirely without reason.
These situations, wherein a group broadcasts an idea to everybody, then silences dissent because itās ātheir turf, their rules,ā never seemed fair. Shields like ātheyāre trollingā, āneoliberalsā, ābotsā and ābrigadingā intensify the issueāsome mod comments read like a mirror of r/conservative. Why does the blame lie solely with one side, when the subject is controversial and sharing it with everyone was also a deliberate choice?
There was talk of an option, for communities, to self-exclude from āallā feeds. Wonder if such features could be a better solution, here. Iāll refrain from talking AI and ethics in db0 in the future, but I feel like they should do better, themselves.
You need to use the block function instead of brigading communities and users who post AI content here. Activitypub services provide you with ways to stop seeing content you dislike in your communities. Youāre choosing not to use it and instead complaining that the content exists, when it and the users who post it have more than every right to post it in this community.
If you are an instance admin you can choose not to federate with it but you arenāt, youāre a user. So either suck it up or block some people and communities.
I donāt think weāll agree here, but it has to be said:
There is no brigade. You need to stop trying to redefine that term. There is no coordination, no plan, no private organizing. What you see is an entirely natural, decentralized reaction to an obnoxious and harmful trend.
Youāre broadcasting, shouting at a megaphone, then blaming people who didnāt preemptively put earplugs in. Youāre blaming people who have every right to use or not whatever platform features they wish and framing their disjointed actions as something else.
If you donāt like these reactions, youāre also free to stop seeing them. So maybe suck it up, or block some people? This argument sucks.
This isnāt something you can deny or prove innocence of, as brigaders and astroturfers are known to lie about their intentions, but FYI by trying to deny the existence or nature of brigading youāve already failed and made yourself look even more suspicious. They always are āindividual opinionsā or āgrassroots movementsā according to the ones participating but the proof is in the votes and comment history of the users, and yours doesnāt make you look particularly good.
The person youāre replying to might be telling the truth, no way to know, but this instance got a lot of negative interaction from an actual brigade earlier today, so I wouldnāt be surprised.
Yeah, I wouldnāt be either, there have been brigades for a while actually and all the brigaders claim they arenāt that itās just āindividual opinionsā. It is hard to know definitively and thatās really what they use to not get caught. Even if some of the people Iāve banned arenāt technically brigaders I donāt feel bad about it since they were anti-AI trolls in the first place, they donāt get anything out of my community. None of them are innocent or have been. OP of this thread certainly also isnāt innocent.
Yeah, I saw that later. This is clearly a bigger problem than I knew until likeā¦ two hours ago. But! Thatās just evidence that the mods and admins are doing a fantastic job!
Because I make no secret of my opinions and donāt filter what I interact with?
If I was part of a secret, AI-hating cabal, what the hell would I be doing here on a thread with like 50 interactions? This has got to be the least advantageous, least productive, most contrived way to further my goals: in the midst of āenemy turf,ā with no support, getting downvoted and looking like a loser trying to explain what brigading isnāt.
Thereās no pretty way to say this, but youāre acting like a conspiracy theorist.
Iām not denying the nature of brigades, Iām saying a lot of the internet hates the genAI trend, is extremely open about it, and that post hit All. This is the simplest explanation, which youāre saying isnāt the case despite having no actual evidence pointing otherwise. But merely trying to prove the obvious would feed into an apparent persecution complex.
If I stay quiet, youāre right, but if I talk youāre righter. Have a good day, I guess.