• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    Oh don’t fool yourself that you represent any kind of a leader.

    What lost this election was Harris’s refusal to move on Gaza, and that was supported by the Blue MAGA/ BNMW contingent.

    We had the chance to kick Harris into the right direction on Gaza if we could have broken through the down vote wall/ static interference being run by blue MAGA in that campaign.

    If you were defending Harris’ position on Gaza instead of demanding her to change, you are responsible for her loss.

    We needed to move 6 million people and you are offering NO mechanism for that. The only way was to move the candidate. If you interfered in placing pressure on the candidate, this is on you.

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      Now you’re making the assumptions. I never defended her position on the genocide. It was deplorable. I often spoke against it.

      But guess what, neither canidate showed a willingness to budge on that.

      Now we’re going to get 2 genocides and lose what little bit of democracy we had.

      But hey what’s a little martial law. She wasn’t perfect, so you know we’re gotta let the fascists take over instead because I’m a smart boy.

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        That isn’t a mechanism to move 6 million votes onto the Harris side of the balance sheet. You want to make the argument that any blue should have done? Show me how. Because we just ran the experiment, and it turns out, any blue wouldn’t do. Voters cared enough about policy to stay home. We ran with ABWD. It lost the election, for all of us.

        Try again.

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          Honestly this is pointless. I’m not going to explain how the electoral college works, if you understood that you wouldn’t keep repeating 6 million votes.

          Here’s what matters now.

          Protests on Monday. We can’t fix the mistakes of the past anymore. Now we gotta organize. See you there

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            Oh now it’s pointless?

            No it’s not fucking pointless because idiots like you just handed the country to fascism instead of demanding better of the candidate. And it cost us everything.

            You owe me a mechanism, and if you cant propose one, you don’t have one iota of integrity with the blame you place on this who were advocating that Harris needed to change her position on Israel/ Gaza.

            it’s just same toxic shit from the same toxic clowns who just handed this country over to the facisists.

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              No it’s not fucking pointless because idiots like you just handed the country to fascism instead of

              🪞🪞🪞

              You owe me a mechanism

              This may shock you but I don’t owe you anything at all.

              Anyway, I’m going to organize. I’m going to protest. What are you gonna do this week?

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                All you’ve done in this is constantly move goal posts.

                You criticized those who said Harris needed to change her stance on Gaza to win the election by blaming them for the loss. If you want that to be the case, you need to show me a path where Kamala holds her position and wins.

                Even worse, you are dismissing the critique as “propaganda”. Bruh, your right wing take is the fucking propaganda.

                If you are going to levy that criticism, you need to show me a path where Kamala holds her position and wins. If you can’t do so, shut the fuck up and listen to your betters next time.

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                  shut the fuck up and listen to your betters next time

                  See that’s the moral superiority complex that handed the MAGA fascists our country.

                  If it’s now “right wing propaganda” to resist and work to prevent fascism and the MAGA takeover of our country so be it