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Yet they keep supporting Republicans at ever corner, at every step. If. A Republican drops something, a Democrat will go “ohh, let me get that for you”
What the fuck has been going on with the US for like the past 6 decades or so?
Good! As a Democratic Strategist I can USE this Information to CONVINCE the DNC to go even FURTHER Right to Court the Republicans who ARE Happy with the US! That’s the ONLY way we can WIN again!
Oh for fucks sake. Ya think?
So they are going to change their electoral tactics, right?
Right???
Yes the ones who voted this time will sit out next time
you’d have to be braindead to be happy with the state of the US right now.
Unfortunately a lot of Americans are.
But I bet many lefties will still refuse to vote if it’s not the perfect candidate.
Nobody purity tests more than the democratic party. Back in 2016 they were screaming “NO MORE OLD WHITE MEN” at Bernie, then putting their full force behind biden four years later. The democratic party has every excuse under the sun for why a candidate shouldn’t be allowed through their completely party-controlled primaries but demands everyone submits to their pick, even if their pick supports genocide with billions in weapons, just as long as that candidate assures the rich that “nothing will fundamentally change” as things continue to get worse for everyone else.
Why are you blaming leftists anyway? If the big-brained geniuses at the democratic party calculate that leftists are so insignificant as to not bother listening to them, then how are they to blame when the democratic party loses against a clown yet again?
There were not even acceptable ones from DNC, they were not good for workers, not good for cost of living, not good for foreign policy, possibly just for lgbt and other social issues , but social issues can’t be first things
i can see why
GOOD.
EDIT: Maybe next time they’ll actually go out and vote.
Those of us who do vote would especially like to see that outside our districts. Primary the useless ones and even if you hate the result, vote for the Democrat anyway in the general. Anything is better than the fucking ghouls in the Republican party. I’d literally rather vote for an actual ghoul if one promised to only eat the brains of Republicans.
Agreed! VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO (UNLESS the Blue is someone the DNC DOESNT Like then you should vote INDEPENDENT No Matter Who!)!
Voting for an independent over a Democrat is the equivalent of pissing into the wind. Unless the Democrat eats human babies and the Republican votes for better gun control, you ignore the independents. If you can’t understand why then go watch some videos on game theory. Or math.
Wtf are you talking about?
many candidates, mamdani comes to mind
Vote Mamdani, wtf is wrong with you for considering a third party against Mamdani? Is support of Israel a crux issue for you or something?
learn to read kid, i’m saying the DNC is AGAINST Mamdani.
MAMDANI IS THE DNC.
PARTY LEADERSHIP INVITED HIM TO THE PRIMARY AND HE WON.
Happy to vote in a primary and not have a candidate coronated by the party heads yet again
Primary results are decided by number of votes.
Candidates you liked were invited to participate in the primary by the party heads.
K. Happy to have a primary to decide the will of the voters and who they would like to be the nominee instead of a coronation by the crooks in the DNC
That’s not the root of the problem. You aren’t going to solve anything by berating voters. People who don’t feel heard don’t vote, or they shift towards fascism. Berating them just exacerbates the problem because it makes them feel even less heard. You aren’t helping.
Voters!? Nah, Nonvoters, and Fuck Them they enabled a nazi takeover of America, I don’t like living in a world too stupid to cut it as a Captain America screenplay.
Dumb asinine moronic jackasses, every one of them. If they haven’t learned their lesson yet, may they at least get aids and die.
You’re helping to create more of what you hate, and you call them dumb. Fascinating.
This is what the sycophants in the DNC are like, all of them. Bootlickers the lot of them
A lot of people are rightfully angry that so many leftists opted out of voting against fascism. How was allowing a dictator to take charge supposed to teach the DNC a lesson? They wanted to burn the house down and now it’s burning with most of us stuck inside. I think it’s fair to call them morons.
And a lot of leftists are rightfully angry that so many liberals assume that leftists are somehow over-represented among the people who didn’t vote. There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. All you have is a smattering of online noise makers that could just as well be influence ops. The following is a quote from a pew study in 2021.
Although they are one of the smallest political typology groups, Progressive Left are the most politically engaged group in the Democratic coalition. No other group turned out to vote at a higher rate in the 2020 general election, and those who did nearly unanimously voted for Joe Biden. They donated money to campaigns in 2020 at a higher rate than any other Democratic- oriented group.
Progressives are consistently the most reliable Democratic voting bloc, not to mention the most reliable small dollar donors. They also make up the lion’s share of the Democratic ground game which is - not coincidentally - about the only thing Democrats do right.
What you are doing is slander of the left and mindless parroting of establishment bullshit talking-points. You are also helping to perpetuate the establishment’s record of abject failure by giving them a scapegoat.
Where in my comment did I put the onus on progressives? I’m one of the progressives in that demographic, both in the way I voted and donated. I donated to every major progressive candidate in 2021. None of which live in my state. Not that I need to prove anything to you, internet random, just trying to point out how asinine your strawman is.
I said leftists because the left is a broad spectrum with varying beliefs. I’m fully aware that I’m basing my opinion on my own anecdotal evidence, but I’m not someone who only pays attention during the election and follows whatever the current group thought is. Most of the people I saw speaking out against voting were young leftists that were hung up on the US’ role in the genocide happening in Palestine, as if the US hasn’t been a major supporter of almost every imperialist/authoritarian country we’ve had dealings with basically since our inception… I wish people could be more realistic about this stuff. The choice was between more of the same neo-liberalist soft imperialism we’ve had since the early 90’s and outright fascism. By omitting their vote, a lot of young leftists chose outright fascism.
And where is your evidence that “so many leftists” were the problem? You could have said “so many people” or “so many Democrats”. No, you singled out one group to target. You have no more proof that it was “the left” then you would have had for “progressives”.
Not that I need to prove anything to you, internet random
then
Most of the people I saw speaking out against voting were young leftists
So, which is it? Are Internet randoms representative of something, or not?
I’m basing my opinion on my own anecdotal evidence
There is no such thing as anecdotal evidence.
young leftists that were hung up on the US’ role in the genocide happening in Palestine
Imagine that, getting hung up on a silly thing like genocide. Well, they voiced their apparent hang ups and the then-candidate called them anti-semites. If they didn’t vote for Harris, I blame Harris. The Democrats incessantly piss on the left then whine and moan every time they voice decent. It’s a fucking miracle that there hasn’t been a mass desertion of the Democrats by the left.
If you are still blaming voters and not the DNC, then you are the problem. Shit candidates get shit turnout. It’s that simple. No amount of blaming random groups of voters will change that, especially in the long run.
Lmao
While 76 percent of Republicans say they are satisfied with the direction of the country
What the absolute fuck?? These fucking people would be happy with the direction of north Korea. Decades of relentless propaganda have really done a number on these people and destroyed their critical thinking
When they are unseated in the midterms, we should deport them to pyongyang
Unseat Republicans? I remind you that faith in the DNC is also near it’s lowest. There are ZERO independents in the house and TWO in the senate (Bernie Sanders and Angus King).
It would take record breaking volunteering for the DNC across every state to fix that, or otherwise it would take a cataclysmic event.
65% of Republican voters are ages 50 and over, these people don’t really care about anything except their retirement accounts. So long as Republicans can keep the stock market growing they don’t give a shit.
Imagine you were a vaguely decent “Republican”, who sees what Trump is doing and his the broader party is enabling him, and dislikes it.
When you get polled, what are the chances that you decide to identify as independent rather than claim that Republican affiliation soon?
Im shocked its not lower.
LOL got me
0% of Democrats happy with state of the US right now
MAGA: That’s how we know we’re doing the right thing!
Never listen to a centrist again when they tell you “how things have to be” to win an election.
But but no matter who
Such a tired bit of propaganda. Y’all need to acknowledge that while we wouldn’t have had progress under Kamala we also would not have had Alligator Auscwhitz, a near doubling of homeland security’s budget, illegal kidnappings/deportations, the US military policing American cities, tariffs, RFK Jr., honestly I could keep going.
She ran a shit campaign, people were dissatisfied with the former administration. She should never have been there, but all those that decided to abstain damned us all.
It’s like sitting one a sinking ship, throwing all the life jackets overboard, and complaining “well I didn’t sink the ship”.
Now millions of people in this country from those in the LGBTQ community to immigrants live in fear. Because some people thought they were so morally superior. Well congrats.
I don’t even like the democrats, but I’m at least capable of realizing that sometimes you have to pick what causes the least amount of harm. Sometimes you can’t have an ideal outcome. I’d rather run off the road than plow through children crossing the street. Neither are a good option, but only one is morally correct. And no taking your hands off the wheel and complaining isn’t a moral option.
Sometimes you can’t have an ideal outcome.
Tell the democratic party this when they insist that the candidate MUST lick rich people’s asses or they’d rather give the election to the republicans. When you’ve got people making excuses for giving billions in weapons to genocide then it’s obvious that the democratic party is not actually interested in helping. If they can excuse genocide then they can excuse anything.
You can say “better than the alternative” all the way to fascism, because that is the only place that line of thinking will bring you. In fact, that is exactly what has happened after decades of rabid republicans and impotent democrats tag team fucking the American people.
Tell the democratic party this when they insist that the candidate MUST lick rich people’s asses
It’s kinda funny you assume that I already don’t feel this way.
Just when it comes to the day our flawed voting system gave me a choice between fascism or not. There’s really no other way to look at it. You can abstain, but that’s a vote for fascism.
You can justify it however you want, but your moral superiority comes at the expense of the lives of minorities. That’s just the facts of the 2024 election.
Just when it comes to the day our flawed voting system gave me a choice between fascism or not.
That was not the choice. The solution to hitler is not hitler-lite.
You can justify it however you want, but your moral superiority comes at the expense of the lives of minorities. That’s just the facts of the 2024 election.
Stop using minorities as a shield for continuing terrible democratic policies which include GENOCIDE.
Stop using minorities as a shield
You’re telling on yourself. I’m viewing them as people who’s lives are now in jeopardy. These are my friends and family we’re talking about. You read my truthful fears and decided it was political theater.
Guess what now we get 2 genocides and one gets to be domestic. But keep thinking you’re oh so superior.
Telling on myself how? That I don’t find genocide acceptable? You’ve clearly taken the genocide of Palestinians as granted and perhaps even acceptable. If the democratic party is willing to support the genocide of Palestinians, even going out of their way to sending billions in weapons toward the cause, then your friends and family aren’t safe the second the democratic party finds them politically inconvenient either. First they came for…
Sometimes you can’t have an ideal outcome.
This is what centrists love to tell progressives. But thanks to DNC leadership, the reality is that progressives almost never get their ideal outcome.
In fact, progressives are hardly even allowed representation within the DNC, god forbid leadership roles. Every time a popular progressive candidate comes along the DNC and centrists say, “now is not the time” and do everything in their power to prevent the progressive candidate from gaining power. It’s been that way for decades and yet they still feel entitled to the progressive vote.
At this point, many progressives are so disillusioned with the DNC that they are actively voting for MAGA candidates rather than just staying home on election day. No amount of telling them to vote for the lesser evil is going to work.
The only way for the DNC to guarantee the progressive vote is to open up space in the party for progressive politics. But at this point it’s becoming clear that the DNC would sooner risk losing power to fascists rather than to progressives.
You can yell at voters until you’re blue in the face and nothing will change. The DNC has been trying that since 2016 and the only time it “worked” was when the opposition was in the middle of mismanaging a once-in-a-century disaster. The only way you’re going to inspire people to vote for you is to give them what they want.
Exactly. Now instead of only continuing the genocide that was never going to be stopped regardless of the outcome of the election, we get a second genocide right here at home.
That you take the former as given is the whole reason the Democratic party has like a 20% approval rating. People don’t vote for parties that just act like bad things are just immutable facts of life, especially when it’s blatantly obvious that the bad thing could be changed if the political will existed.
Imo it was a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation for Democrats; which is exactly what Republicans, Israel, and bad actors crafted the situation to be.
If the public stance was not Democrats being 100% for Israel, then they believed they would have lost the election because of the political PACs and donors flipping to fund the opposition.
Given how much money the lobbies that were pro-Israel were pushing into the campaign trail, any candidate that didn’t take that stance in a close election was for sure at risk of losing their donor vote.
I still think Democrats should have done more, such as saying they would fully step into the situation to prevent the loss of more lives for both Palestinians and Israelis. It also didn’t help that Biden was pro-Israel and expected Kamala to be lock-step with his stances while on the campaign trail.
If the public stance was not Democrats being 100% for Israel, then they believed they would have lost the election because of the political PACs and donors flipping to fund the opposition.
They chased the money and they lost. Trump had less funding and he won. Aren’t you interested in asking why?
Another question. If it is possible to win with less funding, why do you consider it a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation?
In hindsight it should be easy to see that they were only damned for what they did (backed a genocide), and would not have been otherwise. Too many people can’t get past their bitterness towards abstainers to consider how this outcome was an unforced error on the part of the DNC, and are seemingly content to repeat the same mistake.
They chased the money and they lost. Trump had less funding and he won. Aren’t you interested in asking why?
Functionally that was their gamble. Chasing money is a current issue of our system where money and land matter more than people, power-wise.
Trump specifically had more direct funding than Harris since money was also being spent trying to pick up close Senate seats. I don’t think this includes all of the tactics that went in to drive the vote for Republicans such as Elon’s personal PAC, paying people to register to vote, gerrymandering efforts, added barriers for mail-in ballots, or even the fact that people were allowed to legally gamble on the election.
Another question. If it is possible to win with less funding, why do you consider it a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation?
There was lots of specific issues that factored in, but Democrats being beholden to not pissing off the Israel PACs was a big issue. Some of the same PACs that make very misleading ads against politicians that didn’t say they were specifically pro-Israel. Ads so misleading that you question how it’s legal to make those kinds of claims. And PACs so organized that they can tell their donors who to send their donations to directly and their donors listen repeatedly.
I think it is possible to be a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” if you’re at risk of losing a large enough percentage of voters with either choice you make. I think they could’ve done better if Biden stepped in a year before and demanded America lead operations/prevented Israel from attacking indiscriminately and land grabbing. Well that and if many of the greedy politicians didn’t look at this as an excuse to make an arms deal.
I think they were damned for letting Biden dictate Harris’ Israel/Palestine opinion. Harris wasn’t going to follow in Biden’s footsteps in Israel, so she should have made it clear how she was going to get a resolution brought forward.
In hindsight it should be easy to see that they were only damned for what they did (backed a genocide), and would not have been otherwise. Too many people can’t get past their bitterness towards abstainers to consider how this outcome was an unforced error on the part of the DNC, and are seemingly content to repeat the same mistake.
Personally, I don’t blame abstainers, I blame the propagandists that preyed upon people. Many of the Democratic and Republican politicians are owned by money. It’s the reason these corporate Democratic leaders are not backing Mamdani, since he’s both progressive and not lock-step pro-Israel. The corporate Dems and Republicans specifically are the ones at risk of their funding/seats to another corporate politician if they were not condemning Mamdani.
All this to say, change needs to happen from both within the Democratic Party and outside of it as well, such as by changing the voting system locally to get more politicians like Mamdani.
Very sound logic.
Probably won’t comfort trans people when they’re shoved into death camps, but for a brief moment you got to feel superior. So that’s gotta count for something right?
I voted for Harris and the people you’re losing are the ones who don’t care about feeling superior, they just don’t feel like voting is very important and dumb statements like “regardless of who is elected, this bad thing won’t change” reinforce that idea.
Honestly that’s a fair point. I feel like this is a major failure of our civics education.
If we did mandatory voting, made election day a federal holiday, and treated it like a much more important civil duty the results would be wildly different.
You can write as many paragraphs as you need to feel better but a Harris win was never possible. Our political process has been completely captured by a class of billionaires. The working class have no representation. Elections continue only as a means to accelerate partisan culture war distraction to keep the working class divided. The outcome was pre determined. Direct your anger at billionaires not working class people.
Just watched a legal eagle video on helldivers that gives a nice little primer on managed democracy.
Folks here should watch it. Not that it would actually get them to pull their voluntary blinders off to stop spewing bullshit propaganda about how the democrats can and will save us.
I reject the assertion that there is absolutely no chance and our elections are predetermined. They’re dug in real deep and have an insanely strong influence but there is a chance as long as elections continue to happen.
Also just because the billionaires are the enemy doesn’t mean the common man can’t be wrong. When it comes to a class war I’m more than willing to let bygones be bygones. But that doesn’t mean we still can’t discuss the poor actions of our peers.
Ok then why reject Mamdani in NY and Fateh in MN?
I don’t?
I love Mamdani. Personally haven’t heard much about Fateh but if their policies are similar sign me up.
I don’t mean you, I mean the DNC.
And how exactly do you suggest Kamala to have become elected, exactly, with her position on the genocide and her “I would do nothing different” approach to politics?
Because you are doing a bait and switch, right now, with what the critique was and how you are interpreting it.
The critique was, that if Kamala didn’t change her position on the genocide, she wouldn’t be elected. You are interpreting that as if the argument was that she shouldn’t be elected.
I want to also point out that this same, disingenuous interpretation was omnipresent in the run up to the election: criticism of Harris or her ability to convince the electorate was interpreted as being “against” Harris. This was met with some of the worst brigading and dog-piling the internet has ever seen. This disingenuous approach almost certainly drove voters away from Harris, because of her supporters vapid intolerance to the critique that the candidate needed to change their policies because they were blowing it.
So the onus is on you. How do you, exactly, propose getting 6 million additional votes for Harris? What functional mechanism? Because it’s on your camp at this point, since that camp that ran interference from people trying to move the candidate to a more electable position.
I hold no loyalties to Harris. As stated her campaign was shit and she should never have ran. I’m not part of any “camp”.
It’s not my job to lead you to something all so obvious. Project 2025 was published. We knew this would happen. You decided that the lives of immigrants and queer people were unimportant to you. You decided it was more important to act superior than to swallow just a little bit of your pride and protect lives. I’m sorry that “dogpile” is too much for you to handle.
I’m sure the corpses this administration is making will really really care about my onus
Oh don’t fool yourself that you represent any kind of a leader.
What lost this election was Harris’s refusal to move on Gaza, and that was supported by the Blue MAGA/ BNMW contingent.
We had the chance to kick Harris into the right direction on Gaza if we could have broken through the down vote wall/ static interference being run by blue MAGA in that campaign.
If you were defending Harris’ position on Gaza instead of demanding her to change, you are responsible for her loss.
We needed to move 6 million people and you are offering NO mechanism for that. The only way was to move the candidate. If you interfered in placing pressure on the candidate, this is on you.
Now you’re making the assumptions. I never defended her position on the genocide. It was deplorable. I often spoke against it.
But guess what, neither canidate showed a willingness to budge on that.
Now we’re going to get 2 genocides and lose what little bit of democracy we had.
But hey what’s a little martial law. She wasn’t perfect, so you know we’re gotta let the fascists take over instead because I’m a smart boy.
That isn’t a mechanism to move 6 million votes onto the Harris side of the balance sheet. You want to make the argument that any blue should have done? Show me how. Because we just ran the experiment, and it turns out, any blue wouldn’t do. Voters cared enough about policy to stay home. We ran with ABWD. It lost the election, for all of us.
Try again.
we also would not have had Alligator Auscwhitz
concentration camps for immigrants have been a thing since at least obama. remember “kids in cages”? remember how biden didn’t free them?
a near doubling of homeland security’s budget
trump nearly doubled the DHS’s budget between 2017 and 2021, biden never decreased it. in fact, it kept increasing under him
illegal kidnappings/deportations
instead we would have had legal kidnappings/deportations! much better ☺️
the US military policing American cities
because regular police isn’t militarized and corrupt to hell anyways
tariffs
chinese EVs anyone?
RFK Jr.
i’ll give you that one
yes trump is worse in almost every way. but there is still not much meaningful difference between both parties. note, also, that harris sold herself as tougher on immigration than trump. would this have been true? idk, maybe not, but it still signifies she would’ve gone in the same direction
No difference between the two parties.
You’re unhinged
concentration camps for immigrants have been a thing since at least obama. remember “kids in cages”? remember how biden didn’t free them?
They were bad, now they’re worse. That’s ignoring the difference in scale too.
trump nearly doubled the DHS’s budget between 2017 and 2021, biden never decreased it. in fact, it kept increasing under him
Fair, but once again scale. Doubling a budget in 1 year is actually a lot different than doing it over 4 years.
instead we would have had legal kidnappings/deportations! much better ☺️
Umm yeah, the erosion of due proccess is scary as shit. A sitting US president is removing people from the country to random prisons elsewhere with no due proccess. Deportations are a problem, but the new issue is the dissolution of civil liberties that applies to everyone.
because regular police isn’t militarized and corrupt to hell anyways
Correct, but not the actual issue. Police, while horribly corrupt, have jurisdiction and are theoretically bound to the local government. The military does not have the legal authority to police US citizens. It’s a much bigger issue than militarized police.
chinese EVs anyone?
A handful of targeted tariffs are very common. Basically every nation does them. Once again scale. But I do hate how this benefited Elon.
i’ll give you that one
Worms for the worm god
Anyway, your comparisons lack the necessary depth. A lot of the new issues come down to scale and method. Cruelty has become the point. The law is being ignored in such a way that it suggests soon citizens will have no rights. That’s fucking scary and so so much worse than anything Biden did.
The meaninful difference between both parties is one party allows you to bury your head in the sand while they drug and rape you and the other party just rapes you.
You don’t understand, the blue guy pretended to ignore all of this, that’s clearly better. Now shut up and don’t ask questions!
Now you're saying, who, like you a owl
If you gave all of Harris’s votes to the next leading progressive presidential candidate they’d still lose the election.
That’s how popular progressive policies are.
Popular enough to take a candidate from polling at 8% to disrupting dynasties in 60 days.
Keep pretending that Democrats want conservatives and you’ll keep losing elections for us. Maybe go be a Republican instead?
If you’re taking about Mandani I’m rooting for him but there’s no one nationally trying what he’s done and there’s no one going after the midterms yet so progressives are currently doing what they always do which is nothing but fight with each other.
Wow, good job! You remembered to inhale and exhale! I know that must be very hard to keep track of for you.
Sometimes I mix the two up and it sucks to exhale when I’ve got nothing left in my lungs.
How do those protest votes feel now, assholes?
(to those voters, obvs)
I’m glad I voted for Harris and I’m not complicit in shipping someone’s family member to a concentration camp or helping a pedophile get elected.
Some would argue this as a bad move, but considering Gaza will be a parking lot by December anyway, congrats, benchwarmers. You played yourselves.
I’m with you. We can’t know if she would have taken a different stance on this, but at least we wouldn’t have a mugshot hanging from buildings in the capital where martial law has been instituted.
Currently democrats are having a registration crisis while Republicans are having a boom, so pretty good?
Like you’d think those numbers would be opposite, maybe they are a continued indictment of the DNC democratic party that continues to ignore any candidate who has organic support like Mamdami.
Never underestimate DNC’s ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I dropped Dem for DSA in 2016.
I think voting for a D in the general is generally a good harm reduction strategy. That said, I’m a big fan of the Working Families Party, tho they aren’t active where I’m at. They seem to be “more practical” at gaining political power, while still fairly well-aligned with the DSA about how it should be used.
I, too, started looking for something “left” of the DNC in 2016; I was a fan of Bernie [and other progressives].
I was just listening to an explanation of this effectively fake bit of information this morning. Basically, at least in MA and other states like it, both dems and republicans saw a drop in registration because registrations work differently now. Where registrations are automatic, they don’t default to a party affiliation and you have to actively select such, which most people aren’t going to do. As a result, an absolutely enormous proportion of registrations are now unaffiliated and BOTH parties are more or less taking a hit–however, because Dems get more registrations historically anyway and many of those are now no longer going in to register just party affiliation, they seem disproportionately hit. End of the day, not much is really changing that we can understand from the voting registrations, but we’ll see what happens in the midterms.
Oh interesting, i haven’t heard that fluffy little bit of cope. Every publication I’ve seen that’s covering the initial NYT drop is confirming the results from 4 years of data and they have a dozen bullet points of explanation.
But I haven’t heard that very comfy sounding one yet, you have the podcast link or article i can dig into?
This was discussed in the latest episode of the Horse Race. It’s a MA politics and news podcast so that was their focus. I’ve no idea how this relates to other states
Given that democrats are going along with fascism and throwing progressives under the bus after the primary, vindicating.
Keep crying instead of fighting trump
Gallup’s polling found Republicans were essentially just as dissatisfied with the direction of the country in July last year as Democrats are today. However, the partisan gap at the time was 35 points because only 36 percent of Democrats were satisfied with the country’s direction at the time.
ouch
Got nobody to blame but themselves and their Repuglican butt buddies
I voted for Harris. Republicans aren’t my butt buddies (nice gay slur there btw, fuckhead).
So go fuck yourself.
