Russian and Belarusian citizens who reside in Lithuania will have their residence permits revoked if they travel to Russia or Belarus more than once within a three month period, Lithuanian media outlet LRT reported on May 3.
Imagine living in a neighboring country for work but not being able to take your kid to see their grandparents more than 4 times a year.
Or marrying a foreign national and living with them or any of the myriad of other reasons that makes someone move to another country. But your limited imaginination can only come up with one scenario and therefore it must be the only reason for why a (bela-)russian might not live in their home counrty.
Go back to where you came from if you like it so much
Sounds like the answer to all of them is the same as the guy you’re replying to mentioned: they move back to Russia, or stay in Lithuania. Choose and commit. Sorry that you’re losing out, but Lithuania doesn’t owe you anything.
If my country started fucking with a neighbour, I wouldn’t blame them for pushing against it.
Also seems like plenty of Americans who are against Trump seem to be all for other countries countering.
So abandon your work, force your lithuanian spouse to move, uproot your kids or see your extended family almost never again. Sorry you’re losing out bud sucks for you I guess, not Lithuanias problem though we just make the laws forcing you to choose.
Also seems like plenty of Americans who are against Trump seem to be all for other countries countering.
Plenty of Americans against Trump are still not opposed to the genocide in Gaza. There’s a significant portion of Against Trumpers who were on board with the Iraq invasion, Liz Cheney comes to mind for instance. Here’s a protip: If the americans want you to fight a war its not because they care for you…
edit: still waiting on a reason for how this helps lithuania even if there were a national security threat
If you think you should be allowed as a russian to live in a country russia is engaging in psyops, social destabilization, and some cases even open warfare against, you should be fucking forced to decide. Do you want to stay where you are and have been welcomed despite all your country’s bullshit then do so and blame your relatives at home because they don’t make it stop. Blame yourself as well because you dodged that bullet for a good life elsewhere.
All more logical and reasonable than to expect your host country to roll over and take it for your convenience, especially when most of the russians living elsewhere are just as indoctrinated as those at home and are often willing assets for the russian hybrid campaigns, espionage and sanction evasions. No victim nation of russian aggression can be faulted for trying to protect themselves from a new kind of warfare.
Russians that wholeheartedly condemn what their country is doing probably aren’t travelling that often to russia, for fear of being arrested. Thus, the ones regularly crossing the border are likely the ones that either support russia, or are suspiciously silent. Obviously, these are people we don’t really want in the country anyway, because they’re terrible people. That’s before we bring in the security aspect of allowing russians that are supportive of a potential invasion of the country to stay in the country. Those people are a sabotage and intelligence risk.
Any russian that doesn’t explicitly oppose the current russian regime is complicit. Even more so if they live in a country with free speech. There are plenty of videos online where you can see the preferred methods of dealing with russians engaged in invasions - why not extend the treatment to those supporting them?
Yes, actually. Believe it or not, every Russian and Ukrainian had to make that choice already, and WITHOUT the 1 in 3 months visit option. This is a pretty small problem by comparison. Also, nitpick, but doesn’t a couple eventually move into one place anyway?
Plenty of Russians are still not opposed to the war with Ukraine. I suppose we’re at a standstill, then.
As for pros of doing so, the article says it, potential sabotage. We already have had troubles at the Poland/Belarus border for years, so this seems fair to me. Could also be specifically preventing Russians working in Lithuania and then heading back to take advantage of/boosting Russian economy.
Oh, so we’re going straight to insults to my mental state, huh. I wonder why your unlimited imagination still struggles to understand why it might not be a good idea to visit a country at war often. Especially a country that’s broken every truce that it ever promised to uphold and still aims to expand its territory to former imperial ambitions.
And here I was thinking I shouldn’t judge one account just because they have a hexbear alt.
as if you started with a civil and restrained tone lmao
I wonder why your unlimited imagination still struggles to understand why it might not be a good idea to visit a country at war often. Especially a country that’s broken every truce that it ever promised to uphold and still aims to expand its territory to former imperial ambitions.
I assume visiting the US or Israel is still a-ok though?
And here I was thinking I shouldn’t judge one account just because they have a hexbear alt.
I keep forgetting hexbear is (used to be?) an alt and that I was saying the same shit like you all… How time flies 🤷
Well I’m not seeing any such laws being put up, hence my assumption. So either this isn’t the actual reason for that law, or the lithuanian government is comically inept.
Imagine living in a neighboring country for work but not being able to take your kid to see their grandparents more than 4 times a year.
Or marrying a foreign national and living with them or any of the myriad of other reasons that makes someone move to another country. But your limited imaginination can only come up with one scenario and therefore it must be the only reason for why a (bela-)russian might not live in their home counrty.
a european liberal
Sounds like the answer to all of them is the same as the guy you’re replying to mentioned: they move back to Russia, or stay in Lithuania. Choose and commit. Sorry that you’re losing out, but Lithuania doesn’t owe you anything.
If my country started fucking with a neighbour, I wouldn’t blame them for pushing against it. Also seems like plenty of Americans who are against Trump seem to be all for other countries countering.
So abandon your work, force your lithuanian spouse to move, uproot your kids or see your extended family almost never again. Sorry you’re losing out bud sucks for you I guess, not Lithuanias problem though we just make the laws forcing you to choose.
Plenty of Americans against Trump are still not opposed to the genocide in Gaza. There’s a significant portion of Against Trumpers who were on board with the Iraq invasion, Liz Cheney comes to mind for instance. Here’s a protip: If the americans want you to fight a war its not because they care for you…
edit: still waiting on a reason for how this helps lithuania even if there were a national security threat
Yes, unironically.
If you think you should be allowed as a russian to live in a country russia is engaging in psyops, social destabilization, and some cases even open warfare against, you should be fucking forced to decide. Do you want to stay where you are and have been welcomed despite all your country’s bullshit then do so and blame your relatives at home because they don’t make it stop. Blame yourself as well because you dodged that bullet for a good life elsewhere.
All more logical and reasonable than to expect your host country to roll over and take it for your convenience, especially when most of the russians living elsewhere are just as indoctrinated as those at home and are often willing assets for the russian hybrid campaigns, espionage and sanction evasions. No victim nation of russian aggression can be faulted for trying to protect themselves from a new kind of warfare.
Russians that wholeheartedly condemn what their country is doing probably aren’t travelling that often to russia, for fear of being arrested. Thus, the ones regularly crossing the border are likely the ones that either support russia, or are suspiciously silent. Obviously, these are people we don’t really want in the country anyway, because they’re terrible people. That’s before we bring in the security aspect of allowing russians that are supportive of a potential invasion of the country to stay in the country. Those people are a sabotage and intelligence risk.
Any russian that doesn’t explicitly oppose the current russian regime is complicit. Even more so if they live in a country with free speech. There are plenty of videos online where you can see the preferred methods of dealing with russians engaged in invasions - why not extend the treatment to those supporting them?
Yes, actually. Believe it or not, every Russian and Ukrainian had to make that choice already, and WITHOUT the 1 in 3 months visit option. This is a pretty small problem by comparison. Also, nitpick, but doesn’t a couple eventually move into one place anyway?
Plenty of Russians are still not opposed to the war with Ukraine. I suppose we’re at a standstill, then.
As for pros of doing so, the article says it, potential sabotage. We already have had troubles at the Poland/Belarus border for years, so this seems fair to me. Could also be specifically preventing Russians working in Lithuania and then heading back to take advantage of/boosting Russian economy.
They have fascists and a fascist-lite party.
Fuck that country
The fact that I dont even know which country exactly you mean 🤣
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Oh, so we’re going straight to insults to my mental state, huh. I wonder why your unlimited imagination still struggles to understand why it might not be a good idea to visit a country at war often. Especially a country that’s broken every truce that it ever promised to uphold and still aims to expand its territory to former imperial ambitions.
And here I was thinking I shouldn’t judge one account just because they have a hexbear alt.
It was the Banderites who broke the Minsk accords.
And the US who unilaterally ended the missile treaties.
I guess that makes Putin a Banderite then
You guess wrong.
as if you started with a civil and restrained tone lmao
I assume visiting the US or Israel is still a-ok though?
I keep forgetting hexbear is (used to be?) an alt and that I was saying the same shit like you all… How time flies 🤷
No, no it’s not. Though you do like to assume a lot, it seems
Well I’m not seeing any such laws being put up, hence my assumption. So either this isn’t the actual reason for that law, or the lithuanian government is comically inept.
Western ‘values’