Community description for ManufacturingConsent is “when the media decides who you are rooting for.” So, being banned for questioning their narrative strikes me as absurdly funny. I mean, I guess if the idea of the community is that geneva_convenience should decide whom you root for, that would track.

The post in question: https://piefed.ca/post/266435

(I pointed out that the Guardian was probably including the hostages who died after the attacks. This really bugged OP and led to a ban.)

I don’t really care for a remedy, seems a silly place. Just thought it was funny as heck.

(For what it’s worth, like most, I side with Palestine but I think being accurate lends credence to our cause.)

  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    Being upset over a difference of 61 is pretty dumb in and of itself. It’s less than 6% discrepancy even if you don’t count hostages killed in Gaza.

    There’s plenty of occurrences of media manipulation around this conflict, this doesn’t even register on my radar at all. Like “Oh I was just a few dozen deaths short of having sympathy for Israel”

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      What’s confusing is that it felt like MyBrainHurts was doing a gotcha on a gotcha, and then it fell down a rabbit hole from there.

      But more than that…

      Say ICE kidnaps a pair of kids in the morning. In the afternoon, the distraught parents see them in a detention van and try to get them back. In the commotion, one of the kids dies.

      Like, I don’t think MyBrainHurts is being deliberate in the language, but “one kid dies in the commotion” rings a big “cop-talk” alarm bell. The whole argument feels dumb and petty, hashed out by two people with no control of the horror in the outside world. And because of the vacuum of activism that is the internet, they waste their time snipping at each other rather than finding a better use for their restless energy.

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        Also, ice were the instigators, the child was not dancing on the graves of the ice agents’ loved ones.

        Its important to remember that nothing done to a zionist by a Palestinian can be unjust. Literally ever.

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        To each their own! I just wanted an analogy where I was pretty sure they would want to take the other side.

        (It just seems wild to me that geneva’s arguing that the kidnapped people shouldn’t count in the totals.)

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      Like “Oh I was just a few dozen deaths short of having sympathy for Israel”

      This is really well put and cracked me up.

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      Being charitable, I’m wondering if they were trying to criticise the guardian making no distinction between soldiers and civilians killed on October 7th.

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      It’s about keeping the incident in the narrative and attributing murders committed by zionists to their victims, strengthening the logic paths of the genocidal abuser; not about the actual numbers. Nobody, including this filth, this hazbarite scum, gives a single fuck about the numbers.

      Or for that matter the Zionist party bros who fucked around dancing on the graves of their victims and for once had the opportunity to find out.

      Stop falling for their fucking lies. This is a nazi propagandist trying to help excuse a genocide.