I think people wear NASA gear in Europe because it’s the western default - the same way they wear Converse and Nike. Wearing ESA merch sprinkles European identity where you’re used to seeing an American pop culture import. It almost feels like a play on a fashion trope - “you’re used to people wearing NASA, but ha it’s ESA!”
Ok but no one buys NASA. The work they’ve done has been of benefit to the world. Hell, the ESA exists because Europe decided no single European country could build a home grown NASA alone.
I promise you everyone at NASA would rather live in a world where the ESA exists. Let’s not project the tribalism de jure being thrown around by the shit slingers onto organizations that are just as much victims of Fascism and enshittification as we are
There really is, and you named them. But you forgot about all their legions of anonymous followers who would disparage NASA at their behest to sow baseless discontent.
I would love to have an ESA jacket to go with my NASA one. I would never discourage a child from expressing interest in either organization, and I certainly would never engender tribalism in them by saying “ESA GOOD NASA BAD” or any inversion or variation thereof.
absolutely. makes me sad to see kids running around in NASA gear. i only buy ESA gear for my son.
Why? There’s a bunch of cool people at Nasa and they’ve done a lot of cool things
I think people wear NASA gear in Europe because it’s the western default - the same way they wear Converse and Nike. Wearing ESA merch sprinkles European identity where you’re used to seeing an American pop culture import. It almost feels like a play on a fashion trope - “you’re used to people wearing NASA, but ha it’s ESA!”
Gestures broadly to the sub
Support and have pride in our homegrown efforts.
Ok but no one buys NASA. The work they’ve done has been of benefit to the world. Hell, the ESA exists because Europe decided no single European country could build a home grown NASA alone.
I promise you everyone at NASA would rather live in a world where the ESA exists. Let’s not project the tribalism de jure being thrown around by the shit slingers onto organizations that are just as much victims of Fascism and enshittification as we are
supporting the ESA is not attacking NASA, no need to defend them.
There should be no need to defend them, yet there is.
there really isn’t, but ok. better to go defend them from Trump and Musk.
There really is, and you named them. But you forgot about all their legions of anonymous followers who would disparage NASA at their behest to sow baseless discontent.
I would love to have an ESA jacket to go with my NASA one. I would never discourage a child from expressing interest in either organization, and I certainly would never engender tribalism in them by saying “ESA GOOD NASA BAD” or any inversion or variation thereof.
There’s already so much of that, why add more?
Good thing no one here did any of that then.