• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    11 days ago

    You pay attention.

    The GOP doesn’t want to stop all people from voting. Just the poor ones. They still draw their supposed legitimacy from the electoral process.

    The GOP loves when people say “both sides are the same.”

    Umm… no. Also: that’s a horrible way to boil down legit critique of electoralism.

    That was Trump’s big message in 2016; he was outside the system and would shake things up.

    Yeah. He used the myth of electoralism being in the interest of the working class.

    I’m as much against far right governments as you are. The difference is that you Complain about individuals not voting the right way instead of asking yourself if the system is already rigged in favour of the ruling class.

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      11 days ago

      If voting could change anything vital, it would be illegal.

      Those are your words you are walking back away from.

      Of course the system is built to favor the richest. Once you get past the hunter/gatherer stage that’s an axiom.

      It’s a lot easier to get an FDR elected than it is to overthrow the entire system.

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        11 days ago

        Of course the system is built to favor the richest. Once you get past the hunter/gatherer stage that’s an axiom.

        No, that a false assumption you’re making and that is very convenient for the system to uphold.

        It’s a lot easier to get an FDR elected than it is to overthrow the entire system.

        Yeah. The duct-tape usually is easier than properly fixing something.

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          11 days ago

          Sounds like you’ve abandoned your original statement and now you’re just shouting about how I’m wrong.

          Why don’t you lay out a detailed plan of how we create your utopia.

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            10 days ago

            Sounds like you’ve abandoned your original statement

            How? You didn’t really address my original statement, so of course I didn’t elaborate much further. The GOP drawing their supposed legitimacy underlines my original statement, btw.

            Why don’t you lay out a detailed plan of how we create your utopia.

            Hou much time to you have? /j

            Books have been filled with the topic, which is still unsolved to this day. Expecting me to give you a “detailed plan” can’t be meant in good faith. At least it seems that way. I can answer your question only in a very boiled down manner: through bottom-up organizing.

            I can point you to a direction though. The anarchist FAQ has both the answer to your question in more detail than I could write in a comment. It also a good introductory text.

            I also have a video explaining why voting does not help in liberating people.

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              10 days ago

              So, the plan is unsolved, but we shouldn’t do a ‘duct tape’ solution in the mean time.

              You keep sitting there and act privileged while us poor misguided folks do actual work.

              Feel free to sit on the sidelines and tell us how we’re doing it wrong.

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                10 days ago

                So, the plan is unsolved, but we shouldn’t do a ‘duct tape’ solution in the mean time.

                if the duct tape is stabilizing the underlyingissue: yes.

                You keep sitting there and act privileged while us poor misguided folks do actual work.

                You’re making awfully wild assumptions about strangers on hhe internet, comrade. I’m actively organizing.

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                  10 days ago

                  Expecting me to give you a “detailed plan” can’t be meant in good faith.

                  That’s you, right??

                  So, no actual plan, but you’re ‘organizing.’

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                    10 days ago

                    I’ve given you directions to find an answer to your questions. You don’t care. You just want to troll.