• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    NHS England is expected to be brought back into the Department of Health within two years, while the cuts to integrated care boards (ICBs), which plan health services for individual regions, will reduce their headcounts by 50%.

    NHS Providers’ chief executive Daniel Elkeles said: "This is a pragmatic step that means planned redundancies can now go ahead.

    So this appears to be related to bringing NHS England out of being a quango and back into public control. That’s a bit of a relief, actually. The headline had me worried.

    I think reversing Cameron’s move to make NHS England a quango with an extra layer of middlemen is a good one.

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      Eliminating NHS England was announced ages ago - potentially as a manifesto pledge but I don’t remember - so layoffs associated with that were already planned. Whatever they’re announcing here must be something extra or it wouldn’t break the disagreement.

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    Were Wes Streeting to have an unfortunate accident, the world would be no worse off.

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      Read the article, Labour are reducing the number of middle managers put there by the Tories.

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        Why would you assume i hadn’t read the article? There’s no indication that this will lead to any improvement in service delivery. In fact:

        _'But Patricia Marquis of the Royal College of Nursing warned the redundancies could backfire.

        "Front-line services need more investment, but to do this off the backs of making thousands of experts redundant is a false economy.'_

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        Bold of you to assume being Wes Streeting or related to Wes Streeting is a net positive experience or that he might possibly have any friends.

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          This attitude is extremely shitty and extremely unproductive. If you have criticisms then you can just say them, but this is just being horrible about someone.

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            It must be exhausting being so sanctimonious.

            Perhaps being a nominally Labour health secretary who has a long history of taking donations from the private healthcare industry is a conflict of interests? When you cap investment and reduce headcount in a very stretched health service, this is perhaps indicative that he is, in fact, an unscrupulous, untrustworthy, dislikable cunt.

            But sure, bat for him.

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              Well done for saying something substantive.

              Shame I had to call you both out for being disgusting to get here.

              Also the reduced headcount is in NHS England, which has already been announced as being axed due to it being an extra layer of Tory bureaucracy. Are you actually in favour of keeping that around?

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                You had to call us both out for being disgusting? I can only assume you’re either new to the internet or believe that politicians are precious little flowers. In any case, not your job to police anyone on here, so wind your neck in.

                Also, not sure why you think I’m interested in having a debate with you about NHS England? That’s rhetorical btw, i don’t care.

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                  I think you shouldn’t be using constructions that verge on inciting violence (“have an accident”) and then doubling down on saying that people are literally worthless. That is dehumanising, which is bad whether it’s a politician you hate or not.

                  Amazing that you get annoyed by being called out and call it “policing”. I’m not arresting you, I’m telling your being a shit human being. If you think only the mods or your mum or god can do that then you’re wrong.

                  And if you don’t want to have a debate about NHS England but are still keen to comment under articles about it, then seems like there’s not going to be any point talking to you. Goodbye, and try not be a victims of the toxic culture you’re fostering.

  • LadyButterfly she/her@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    It says admin roles are going. How are they going to manage that? I bet you anything loads could be done by buying technology that does it for you, but they won’t.

    With the NHS having massive recruitment and retention issues, is this the right move?

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    I hate the way corporate speak is so normalized. They aren’t ‘making redundancies’ they are firing people, destroying lives, deconstructing the UKs greatest achievement the NHS to privatize it so the capitalists can feed.