Man, what’s with people seeing others complain about something, and using “cry about,” “screech about,” and other words implying strong unpleasant emotion to describe their expressions of discontent? It reads very much not just as “I disagree and do not think they are right,” but as actively dismissing and wanting to minimize the complaints and make the complainers look bad. I’d like to let people have opinions, even wrong opinions, about media without considering them an overemotional baby/spoiled child/other insult here.
Second time I saw this happen on peaceful gaming communities that mostly get all their posts from Agent Karyo in two days, it’s kind of disheartening. I want a peaceful discussion space, not a circle of X group SLAMS other group, and people who disagree with each other portraying the other side as screechy babies, spoiled brats, and whatever insult.
I also do not think it is such a bad thing that we’re pushing for more accessibility. The example of someone without hands is a bit prohibitive for games now as far as I know, but although you intend it as a ridiculous example of accessibility gone too far I cannot help but think it would be really nice for someone without hands to some day have a game made for them. I am not sure why I’m supposed to view that as a bad thing. Including those on the fringes is good! Of course, harassing an indie dev with fewer resources and time over lack of accessibility options super isn’t it. You cannot expect everyone to have the time and resources necessary to do all the work needed to make games accessible to those with various disabilities all with different support needs. But a big AAA company raking in the bucks can afford to help.
And of course, some games are meant for certain audience to the exclusion of others and that is okay. A game to test or improve your typing skills is inherently inaccessible to those without hands (as far as I know) and that’s okay. Shooting games are designed for people who like them, and that’s okay. But overall valuing inclusivity and including more people where you can is a good thing, not a bad thing. I saw your Dark Souls comment and I would not mind if they added easy modes. I also think the core of that series is being omgwtfdifficult and also would not have a problem if they never added it. (No idea what actually happened since I do not play Dark Souls.) I understand some games are made for specific audiences and this one might be made for people who like hard games. I don’t think we should harass them to add an easy mode. But if they wanted to add one, why would it be such a bad thing for them to get an optional easy mode?
And going more general, not just about accessibility for the disabled, I do not personally think every game needs to be for everyone ever. The core problem isn’t about every single game not being accessible to everyone, it is about how some populations have very few games available to or aimed at them at all. Not every game needs to be playable by the blind, but if they have just 1 or 2 available that’s not very fun for them either. Not every game needs a female protagonist, but as women make up a lot of gamers we think it would be nice if there were some (and indeed there are, more games have female protagonists nowadays and that’s nice).
Man, what’s with people seeing others complain about something, and using “cry about,” “screech about,” and other words implying strong unpleasant emotion to describe their expressions of discontent? It reads very much not just as “I disagree and do not think they are right,” but as actively dismissing and wanting to minimize the complaints and make the complainers look bad. I’d like to let people have opinions, even wrong opinions, about media without considering them an overemotional baby/spoiled child/other insult here.
Second time I saw this happen on peaceful gaming communities that mostly get all their posts from Agent Karyo in two days, it’s kind of disheartening. I want a peaceful discussion space, not a circle of X group SLAMS other group, and people who disagree with each other portraying the other side as screechy babies, spoiled brats, and whatever insult.
I also do not think it is such a bad thing that we’re pushing for more accessibility. The example of someone without hands is a bit prohibitive for games now as far as I know, but although you intend it as a ridiculous example of accessibility gone too far I cannot help but think it would be really nice for someone without hands to some day have a game made for them. I am not sure why I’m supposed to view that as a bad thing. Including those on the fringes is good! Of course, harassing an indie dev with fewer resources and time over lack of accessibility options super isn’t it. You cannot expect everyone to have the time and resources necessary to do all the work needed to make games accessible to those with various disabilities all with different support needs. But a big AAA company raking in the bucks can afford to help.
And of course, some games are meant for certain audience to the exclusion of others and that is okay. A game to test or improve your typing skills is inherently inaccessible to those without hands (as far as I know) and that’s okay. Shooting games are designed for people who like them, and that’s okay. But overall valuing inclusivity and including more people where you can is a good thing, not a bad thing. I saw your Dark Souls comment and I would not mind if they added easy modes. I also think the core of that series is being omgwtfdifficult and also would not have a problem if they never added it. (No idea what actually happened since I do not play Dark Souls.) I understand some games are made for specific audiences and this one might be made for people who like hard games. I don’t think we should harass them to add an easy mode. But if they wanted to add one, why would it be such a bad thing for them to get an optional easy mode?
And going more general, not just about accessibility for the disabled, I do not personally think every game needs to be for everyone ever. The core problem isn’t about every single game not being accessible to everyone, it is about how some populations have very few games available to or aimed at them at all. Not every game needs to be playable by the blind, but if they have just 1 or 2 available that’s not very fun for them either. Not every game needs a female protagonist, but as women make up a lot of gamers we think it would be nice if there were some (and indeed there are, more games have female protagonists nowadays and that’s nice).