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What can think the unthinkable?
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An ithberg
Retaliating is a lot less bad an idea than meekly rolling over and letting them take whatever they want.
It’s good that they’re recognizing the threat. Putin dreams of an empire, and Ukraine is just one step on his path. If we’ve learned anything from WWII, appeasement doesn’t work. NATO countries are already being attacked by Russia through cyber attacks and destabilization efforts effected through social media. It seems only reasonable to push back.
Wont somebody think of poor ol NATO?
Let’s GO!
European imperialism is 150% on with going to war with russia and looking by the comments here looks like a lot of people are interested also. Im sure all those people are already enlisted and will go willingly to the battle fields, will proudly send their children etc
Funny how you’re not mentioning the actual Russian imperial war of conquest that is the catalyst for this reaction…
It’s someone from .ml . Don’t bother.
Totally not caused by NATO. Yeah who needs history anyway when you got so much propaganda
just lol
So Russia has no agency, got it.
Are you in bad faith or is the room temp higher than your IQ?
I can’t tell if you’re a bot, or just regurgitating propaganda.
I guess it doesn’t really matter.
And I guess that was a Freudian slip.
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Dude, I don’t think either of them are good guys, but Putin has the Romanov family crest on his fucking estate. Russia is not your team anymore. You still got Cuba and arguably Vietnam, though the latter is a little cozy with the Zionists. Russia is currently the guys your team hated more than anything, lead by an ex KGB traitor.
They aren’t real Marxists.
Tankies, loyal to a faction, a tribe, rather than methods goals ideas. A faction that seems to have inherited their loyalty after the dissolution of the USSR. I kind of hate it.
Thats not my understanding of the situation. I will explain to you, because youre looking like arguing in good faith. The fight against imperialism is the most important factor, and Russia is doing it right now, so it should be supported in this regard. That doesnt mean i support putin as a person, nor russian government etc. I support their fight. Now why russia is not an imperialist country is a matter youd need some elements to understand that i wont explain here. If youre interested, read Lenin’s book into the subject. But to put it into simple terms you could say that being an agressive beligerant country is not enought to make you an imperialist country. Imperialism is a cohese and closed block, formed after ww2 and latter enlarged with Japan. NATO is the war face of this group, and putin tried to resolve the issues before in all manners possible, to no result. The only language imperialism listens is force, and if you had to chose between starting a war or letting your country be wiped out without even having a reaction, i bet youd choose the same as putin
If Russia is not an imperialist country, please explain their holdings in the Caucuses to me, starting with Chechnya.
A marxist understanding of imperialism is different from just land grabbing or being agressively beligerant. If you want to understand it id suggest Lenin’s book “Imperialism”, as i said in another comment
So we’re just redefining words so that Russia invading Ukraine to seize territory is neither their fault nor imperialism.
And while various states in caucuses have sought their independence from Russia, and been met with invading Russian armies and carpet bombing, that also is not imperialism.
Wait, I almost forgot, we’re redefining words to mean something else, so I guess it all makes sense.
They’re fighting against imperialism… By doing imperialism?
Babe you can redefine the words but that doesn’t change the morality of what’s going on here. This is a blatantly unprovoked territorial land grab with explicitly genocidal war aims that none of the Russian people asked for because the king said so. Old world empire shit. Which is bad.
Call me an anarchist, but I think kings should be dragged down into coal mines with their families and shot until you run out of bullets. Not worshipped.
Your understanding of imperialism is different from mine. If you want to learn about it i suggest Lenin’s book “Imperialism”
I don’t really care about how you define the word. The thing happening is bad and the people doing it are bad. Use another word for it if you like; it’s bad. I call it imperialism, but the name doesn’t really matter here. ‘Read theory’ does not make unprovoked genocide acceptable, and if you think you do, you’re a reactionary idealist who can’t think for yourself.
Yes
Unthinkable? It wouldn’t be the first time
The only winning move is not to play
Play what? You are talking as if Russia didn’t invade a sovereign European nation.
If Ukraine wasn’t putting the resistance out does, Russian tanks would already be in Poland.
Also Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.
I don’t know… I tried it in high school when I was bullied and it was not very effective. Though the one time I punched back one of them (quite ineffectively I must say, as I was way weaker then my counterpart) he indeed stopped bullying and we actually became almost friends in the end.
I know, it’s an anecdote (one single instance in one single life) and you cannot translate easily high school dynamics with geopolitical ones, but sometimes it’s possible to draw parallelism…
And from the voice of Lenin himself (used in a different context by him, but it works very well in this case for modern Russia): “You probe with bayonets: if you find mush, you push. If you find steel, you withdraw”. If you find yourself at the other end of a bayonet, you better be wearing steel than going naked.
That’s unfortunately what putin wishes my friend,he would consider it a weakness
