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      11 months ago

      That’s fair, and not an unreasonable choice. What I can’t get over is people acting like that’s the only reasonable choice, and that people who have children are idiots.

      Just look around in this thread and you’ll see some smug ass attitudes. It kind of reminds me of those 14 year old kids who feel immensely smart because they’re atheist, you know?

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          11 months ago

          Ok lol, my point remains exactly the same and I think your viewpoint is incredibly reductive.

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                11 months ago

                The only way to experience suffering is to be alive. The only way to be born is without consent

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                  So? The only way to contribute to community is to be alive. The only way to feel joy is to be alive.

                  Consent doesn’t make sense for a nonexistant being.

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                    Is the joy worth the pain? What if they don’t want to contribute to a community? Can you guarantee the joy will outweigh the pain? What gives you the right to will another being into existence?

                    If the being will become conscious and self aware, why doesn’t their consent matter?

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              11 months ago

              I don’t think it’s objectively and clearly unethical, so I think your claim that it is is wrong.