Parisians took to the streets in a massive demonstration with slogans and banners against France’s involvement in the Ukrainian conflict, as well as in favor of the country’s withdrawal from the European Union and NATO.
In addition to numerous signs with the word “Frexit,” others could be seen that read: “Macron, we will not die for Ukraine!”
💬 “I am Russia, I am France, I am Ukraine. Stop European state terrorism. The European Union kills. Paris — Frexit,” read another banner.
The march was organized by the Patriots party.
Video link -> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1999909144657113088/vid/avc1/1920x1080/-_-dFzdxM1sem5Xh.mp4
Source -> https://xcancel.com/SputnikMundo/status/1999927805191037023#m
Source from France -> https://xcancel.com/f_philippot/status/1999894336142540894#m

I’ll reply to the top-level comment but I read the entire conversation + continuation on matrix. We will be taking care of unhelpful and bad faith comments but I also think your current point of view is not entirely fleshed out. I say this to be helpful because you ask for answers based in diamat but your comments show idealist thinking (specifically looking at the superstructure rather than starting at the material base). I don’t want to admonish you for it but I also want to get it out of the way but it gives the impression that you will only accept the best of the best rebuttal and then can refuse anything that doesn’t live to your specific standard.
We have to look at what was quantitatively and qualitatively different in colonial Algeria vs. modern-day Germany - third law of dialectics, quantitative change turns to qualitative change. When we look at the history of a nation or state (two different things of course), we’re not just looking at the culture and the local customs, because these are expressions of their material base. We’re looking at how the class struggle evolved and was shaped through time periods, which ultimately has bearing on the present situation. “The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living” as we said.
What were the social relations like in colonial Algeria? What was its mode of production, and thus how was production happening socially? What were its various classes, and which were exploiters and exploited (class relations)? What superstructure was put in place to enforce those relations, what did it look like?
And the same questions for modern day Germany. Algeria was not only colonized it was settled because its proximity did not require local comprador for extraction - thus its institutions and infrastructure reflected that. Algeria was ruled by a French General Governor appointed from France directly, first under the Department of War during the conquest and then appointed by the Prime Minister. Native Algerians, who became indigenous under this social relation (creating a settled class), were not allowed to speak their language. They had to learn French, use the French calendar, observed French bank holidays instead of their own (e.g. Christmas was an official day off but not Eid), and basically work in the French manner. Settlers became rich in Algeria, opening businesses of their own (grapevines were a favorite) + of course French state-owned enterprises being implanted in Algeria.
This is what allows us to say colonial algeria and modern day germany are materially different in their base and thus have a different superstructure and different state character - but we have to look at the totality and not the specifics, another important factor of dialectics (though often overlooked and thus often invoked but it really put things in perspective for me) which you omitted from your argumentation. Germany is part of the imperial core even if, like all of western europe, they happily obey the US. They are not settled and not a colony, and don’t have a comprador bourgeoisie. It’s not my intention to make a class analysis of Germany here because this is getting too long but it could be made applying the same principles.
But I wanted to say this because I find your arguments wanting for more, and as identifying more with the right than the marxists because they don’t really indicate anything marxist - using the verbiage of the far-right is one thing but one must also present convincing materialist arguments to differentiate them from the right. I can’t say “ban all immigrants” only to then clarify “oh only the bourgeois immigrants, not the others” after people raise eyebrows. If I’m talking to marxists I need to be able to explain materially, from the start, that I am talking about the bourgeoisie (and then explain why I said bourgeois immigrants instead of just the bourgeoisie).
In my case I consider there is no need for moderation on your comments in this discussion yet, and like I said I and other admins went through the rest of the comment chain and did cleaning up where applicable.
I agree that my thoughts need more fleshing out and I will try and do this on my own so that I can work this out dialectically. Thank you for the well worded and imo construcrive feedback.
That said, I would like to point out that i never asked for the best. I asked to be treated with dignity and respect, as i treat everyone who happens to have a grad account by default and even outsiders as long as they keep their liberalism in check.
My language (using words such as globalism) may have had a much more problematic impact than i intended. I didnt want it to be problematic at all but i obviously lacked the words to explain this in a more understandable way.
Thank you for explaining, here and on matrix in a respectful fashion. That is both what i ask of comrades and what i show comrades in return.
On the topic:
My idea was maybe a very detail oriented one. Since reading a ton of theory helped me understand a lot of complex issues I thought i might be able to tackle a different kind of animal.
My idea was never to use nationalism or chauvinism or racism in particular.
The idea was basically: we are socialists, we plan to implement the dictatorship of the proletariat in any given country BUT we should also try to get away from the liberalist culture as well. Meaning, for germany especially, we should for example envision a city like beijing, beautiful highrises, lightshows and whatnot, but also - same as beijing - we should have traditional houses in between and we should be careful to preserve the cultural aspects, same as china does in its different parts of the country. Same with teaching traditional german scripture and language/dialects in schools.
As i said, i will try to work this out in more detail. It feels like this is a huge black hole in most leftist (and now i include marxists) circles.
I do understand that this is a sensitive topic. I do think though that it shouldnt be and that we should work together to help each other understand instead of what happened here.
I appreciate the comment/criticism as well. I think I understood what you meant instinctively, and also because English is my native language, and because obviously, having US military bases in Germany, cultural transfer is going to happen between Germans and USians, despite not necessarily having direct or daily interactions.
It’s unfortunate that “globalists” and other neutral words and symbols are so often appropriated by fascists so that we can’t use them anymore when that is the most appropriate word, otherwise. It’s a pita to have to always type out “multinational corporations” or “states who seek to bully other states into compliance with their agendas, ideals, and currency hegemony,” and here I ask for appropriate terms for appropriated terms such as “globalist,” “non-semitic DNA, white supremacist, Zionist Jew,” and probably a cargo shipload of other unintentionally, but deeply offensive words or phrases I’ve used myself, not as dog whistles, but from sheer ignorance of more appropriate concise terms; but also it has me pause and search myself for liberal brainworms because it wasn’t that many years since I stopped conflating “Jew” with “Zionist” (maybe two decades, consciously, less subconsciously, it was multigenerational subconscious conditioning, in my considered but humble opinion), for example. Plus in certain regions, both Germans and USians seem much more direct than others from the same regions, perhaps because diplomacy is too often a nice way to hide nasty meanings, such as dog whistling, and probably for myself, some degree of divergence, from whatever causes I’ve discussed elsewhere. In interpersonal conversations, it causes un/intentional interpersonal conflict, in international conversations, it causes wars, regardless of whatever diplomatic terms the intentional aggressors call it, but that’s no reason not to seek a bit more refinement in our conversations, I think. I’d never want to stifle or derail actual learning conversations.
Thank you. I really appreciate this. <3
I have learned a lot in the past two days.
You are welcome, comrade. That’s why we are here, to learn and grow together. Luckily we have siblings more developed to help us along the way, sometimes more gently, other times more severe, but hopefully always with the aim of improving ourselves and each other, in thinking and speaking.
I also think, speaking for myself, I tend to get more hurt and/or defensive when my personal 3D life is chaotic and find the cliché but appropos acronym HALT helpful (even if I don’t always remember in the moment) helpful, perhaps you are familiar? If not, it means if during the course of conversation or events I find myself becoming upset, if I am hungry (or hurting), angry, lonely, or tired, I need to address those things before responding to things that can reasonably be put off until I’ve addressed the hunger, physical or emotional pain, anger (which is often a mask for fear or pain), and tiredness.
My best to you, and onward!
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