Women and the folk who donāt categorize themselves will never understand the deep masculane urge of self destruction. Of going down in a āblaze of gloryā even if youāre ultimately wrong.
The stereotype of masculinity was always a meme that drove men to destruction. The tribal warriors and knights of ye olde times idealized this type of crap too. Itās been a part of humanity ever since writing was invented, probably longer. Itās a strange part of being human.
the refusal of the friends money, the ābuisnessā as a last resort, trying to avoid medical care to go out with a bang instead of with a whimper, the emotional segregationā¦ wow. itās not even what the show is mainly about but youāre perfectly right
iāve never understood this sort of masculinity, but i also have people who need me to be alive to continue living, and i assume that changes the math (transmasc, since i figure people will wonder, and iām fine with this being the one thing where iām not a real man lol)
Itās super common with young men, those who donāt have someone to ālive forā but plenty of people to ādie forā. No dependents, but lots of people they depend upon.
The greatest sin a man can do, in many societies, is to be an immediate burden, to take in more resources than they provide. To be a momentary net drain in material terms. Of course the pressure completely ignores emotional impact ether positive or negative, and generally discredits the material value of traditionally āfeminineā work.
Thatās kind of the core of a lot of misogyny and patriarchy, emotions and care are not the responsibility of men, their only responsibility is material. How others might feel when they are gone doesnāt matter, the chance to benefit them by dying, even if slim, trumps any emotional impact of them not being around, or any potential long term material benefit of them still being around.
Itās because, so long as we serve nature, we arenāt really people. We are expendable warrior drones, and women only have some value, because they are drone factories. Meanwhile, all we are doing is propagating some non-sentient strand of code, that is our objective.
But it does not have to be this way, this was a choice by someone powerful, to keep us animals.
Thatās one of many reasons I do not respect structures of power. Who says what is right and what is wrong. Not people who say they have the authority do do so, thatās for sure.
Lables like āmasculineā or āfunctioningā are just lables made up by people to categorize and dehumanize others. Everybodyās a person, and everybody has the right to do with their life what they want. But most people donāt see that and blindly follow a path that was laid out for them. Is it āmasculineā to fight and die in a war you have no stake in? Or is it stupid? Is it āmasculineā to want to protect your loved ones? Or is it just human nature?
This is a deep topic, I could literally write several pages about it, but Iāll spare you my poor attempts at philosphy. Unless thatās what youāre into.
Time is an illusion. But I understand, people have jobs and families.
Not related to anything: I think this is the peak of my character arc. Iāve been visited by an Angel, I insulted a Pig, and I argued philosophy with the Worldās Dumbest Man. Iām pretty sure this is how myths are made.
And if you do find some time to argue philosophy (and bullshit topics in general), please check out https://lemmy.world/c/Hermes_Collective. Judging by your displayed name and what Iāve seen on your profile, youād feel right at home.
I know, shameless plug, sorry. Just check it out if you find time. Hope itās not against TOS, because Iām too lazy to check rn. Cheers! :)
I donāt think they make sleep depravation in pill form.
Althoughā¦
Wait, is this a serious inquiry? Because I could give you an extensive list of mind-expanding substances I allegedly used in the past. I could even tell you a purely theoretical method of acquiring each of them, as well as the effects they have.
And just so weāre clear, I am not offering to sell you non-taxable goods via the internet. Itās a terrible business strategy.
You can send me a private message if youāre interested in exchanging knowledge/information. I will tell you what you want to know, but in exchange I will expect the same.
Read my crusty tobacco-infused lips āI am not trying to sell you anything.ā I literally said so. And even if I did, Iām not a biochemist, just friends with a few of them. It would be easier for me (and probably for you too) to get the extract from a human pineal gland than ISRIB.
Have you tried therapy? Iāve heard the placebo effect is all the rage nowdays.
And by the way, you canāt get into legal trouble by just discussing drugs. I could tell you how to build a bomb, and neither of us would be in legal trouble. There might be some questions, yes, some authorities knocking on some doors, but knowledge is still a free, unregulated resource (if you know where to look (kind of like mining for gold in your backyard)).
And by the by the way, supressing the stress response is not mind-expanding, itās synthetic coping. While youāre at it, why donāt you just go ahead and turn off other biological responses. Just turn off all of them, why not, become the perfect worker, get exploited at the cost of your human experience. Great deal. No offense, this was meant to be a hyperbolic joke. (apparently I need to specify to be understood). Not the coping part though, thatās just my unfiltered opinion.
Women and the folk who donāt categorize themselves will never understand the deep masculane urge of self destruction. Of going down in a āblaze of gloryā even if youāre ultimately wrong.
The stereotype of masculinity was always a meme that drove men to destruction. The tribal warriors and knights of ye olde times idealized this type of crap too. Itās been a part of humanity ever since writing was invented, probably longer. Itās a strange part of being human.
The Walter White imperative.
why is this such a perfect explainationā¦
the refusal of the friends money, the ābuisnessā as a last resort, trying to avoid medical care to go out with a bang instead of with a whimper, the emotional segregationā¦ wow. itās not even what the show is mainly about but youāre perfectly right
iāve never understood this sort of masculinity, but i also have people who need me to be alive to continue living, and i assume that changes the math (transmasc, since i figure people will wonder, and iām fine with this being the one thing where iām not a real man lol)
Itās super common with young men, those who donāt have someone to ālive forā but plenty of people to ādie forā. No dependents, but lots of people they depend upon.
The greatest sin a man can do, in many societies, is to be an immediate burden, to take in more resources than they provide. To be a momentary net drain in material terms. Of course the pressure completely ignores emotional impact ether positive or negative, and generally discredits the material value of traditionally āfeminineā work.
Thatās kind of the core of a lot of misogyny and patriarchy, emotions and care are not the responsibility of men, their only responsibility is material. How others might feel when they are gone doesnāt matter, the chance to benefit them by dying, even if slim, trumps any emotional impact of them not being around, or any potential long term material benefit of them still being around.
Can you explain your last paragraph a bit?
Itās because, so long as we serve nature, we arenāt really people. We are expendable warrior drones, and women only have some value, because they are drone factories. Meanwhile, all we are doing is propagating some non-sentient strand of code, that is our objective.
But it does not have to be this way, this was a choice by someone powerful, to keep us animals.
Thatās one of many reasons I do not respect structures of power. Who says what is right and what is wrong. Not people who say they have the authority do do so, thatās for sure. Lables like āmasculineā or āfunctioningā are just lables made up by people to categorize and dehumanize others. Everybodyās a person, and everybody has the right to do with their life what they want. But most people donāt see that and blindly follow a path that was laid out for them. Is it āmasculineā to fight and die in a war you have no stake in? Or is it stupid? Is it āmasculineā to want to protect your loved ones? Or is it just human nature?
This is a deep topic, I could literally write several pages about it, but Iāll spare you my poor attempts at philosphy. Unless thatās what youāre into.
I had plenty of it, and while I really love these topics, I am forced to ration my time.
In other words, TL;DR or Iām not reading.
Time is an illusion. But I understand, people have jobs and families.
Not related to anything: I think this is the peak of my character arc. Iāve been visited by an Angel, I insulted a Pig, and I argued philosophy with the Worldās Dumbest Man. Iām pretty sure this is how myths are made.
And if you do find some time to argue philosophy (and bullshit topics in general), please check out https://lemmy.world/c/Hermes_Collective. Judging by your displayed name and what Iāve seen on your profile, youād feel right at home.
I know, shameless plug, sorry. Just check it out if you find time. Hope itās not against TOS, because Iām too lazy to check rn. Cheers! :)
I need what you are on!
I donāt think they make sleep depravation in pill form.
Althoughā¦
Wait, is this a serious inquiry? Because I could give you an extensive list of mind-expanding substances I allegedly used in the past. I could even tell you a purely theoretical method of acquiring each of them, as well as the effects they have.
And just so weāre clear, I am not offering to sell you non-taxable goods via the internet. Itās a terrible business strategy.
You can send me a private message if youāre interested in exchanging knowledge/information. I will tell you what you want to know, but in exchange I will expect the same.
It would be interesting, but I also donāt need the legal trouble of something Iām not actually buying.
If you had something like ISRIB on the other handā¦
Read my crusty tobacco-infused lips āI am not trying to sell you anything.ā I literally said so. And even if I did, Iām not a biochemist, just friends with a few of them. It would be easier for me (and probably for you too) to get the extract from a human pineal gland than ISRIB.
Have you tried therapy? Iāve heard the placebo effect is all the rage nowdays.
And by the way, you canāt get into legal trouble by just discussing drugs. I could tell you how to build a bomb, and neither of us would be in legal trouble. There might be some questions, yes, some authorities knocking on some doors, but knowledge is still a free, unregulated resource (if you know where to look (kind of like mining for gold in your backyard)).
And by the by the way, supressing the stress response is not mind-expanding, itās synthetic coping. While youāre at it, why donāt you just go ahead and turn off other biological responses. Just turn off all of them, why not, become the perfect worker, get exploited at the cost of your human experience. Great deal. No offense, this was meant to be a hyperbolic joke. (apparently I need to specify to be understood). Not the coping part though, thatās just my unfiltered opinion.