CW - Mentions of: Dysphoria, SA, PTSD, graphic violent descriptions.
Greetings people, this is my first post ever on lemmy. I’m not going to be extensive about my experiences that led to me getting bottom surgery, because I could write the entire novel about how I was manipulated onto getting it.
I’m from Argentina. 3 years ago, I was sexually abused by a chaser, it was horrible, I developed PTSD and, though I’ve never been diagnosed as schizophrenic, had delusions, feeling things that weren’t there, I remember feeling things that terrified me, I started hating being trans, began having thoughts of mutilating my body, so I began to look into Bottom Surgery, I was due to be operated on 2 months after my first (and only) timeI ever saw my surgeon, after many many emails, I got it to 6 months. My surgeon handled things poorly, he rushed me into surgery, constantly threatened me not to ever operate on me should I cancel in a time-frame of 2 months. Plus my parents were constantly threatening to disown me, send me to the street and cancel my Social Insurance (key part of being able to actually get operated on for little to no cost). My surgeon lied to me many many times, and skipped several key procedures, my psychiatrist told him that doing surgery was putting my own life at risk about a month ago, he still went foward with it. Given he’s the most prestigious surgeon in the country (stating to have operated on 1300 trans people), the thought of never being able to access him terrified me. I won’t go into many details, but he told me that losing sensitivity with his methods was practically impossible. My parents were on the verge of disowning me, my friends were TOO supportive, they knew my psychiatrist was saying I SHOULD NOT DO IT, they still encouraged me to operate on myself, telling me they knew other trans women who were made so much happier because of it and that regret rates were less than 1% (It is actually 2% for trans women I believe). Given that I was in a psychotic state, I could not see for myself how insane it all was. A month later, a huge chunk of flesh began to come out of my vagina until it finally fell off. Two months after the surgery, I was locked up in a psyche ward, after that, my sensitivity would not return, I felt nothing when touching my clitoris, ten months later, I began to fully regret it. My surgeon blamed the loss of sensitivity on me and told me that there was nothing he could do (inspite of telling me that the surgery could technically be reversed and that all issues that arised could be operated upon). Should anyone want proof of this, I can show it.
I didn’t even get into how I was drugged, how I trusted strangers to take care of me in a hotel on another city, physically beaten and began to consider mutilitation after surgery. I could write blocks of text that would rival the word count of Disco Elyisium from all of this.
Please don’t see my story as disencouraging for anyone that is suffering from bottom dysphoria, but please please don’t do what I did, I was so afraid that I’d never get a shot at it ever again, that I became desperate to the point I threw all rationality out of the window. Take your time, if your surgeon tells you it’s reversible, don’t believe them (unless they specifically offer to do a penile preserving surgery, my surgeon did not tell me this was possible). Don’t do it out of a desire to be CIS, but to have a vagina. I did not see any appeal in having a vagina, all I wanted was to erase any trace that I was trans.
It’s been 2 years since I got bottom surgery, and I’m 90% sure that I want to go back to having a penis (won’t operate myself until I’m 99% sure), but phalloplasties are limited, they would not restore sensitivity, would not look great and would be terribly dangerous to operate on scared tissue. But I’ve read about regenerative medicine, and how it’s still in very very early stages, that the first lab-grown penises trials have ocurred in the US and that phalloplasties are advancing a LOT. Been wondering, is it realistic to have an ‘ok’ penis in 5-10 years after having a vaginoplasty? Could I ever be considered for experimental surgery?
I want to make 3 things very clear,
- I am NO detransitioner, I’m proud as hell for being trans, I do not wish to have been born a CIS Girl any day of the week.
- I am NOT interesting in fixing my vagina. I do not shave there because it looks horrible, feeling nothing down there at all every day of my life is something that makes me break down into tears or fists of rage. If I was forced to pick between a sensitive vagina or a non-sensitive penis, I would choose the latter.
- I would NOT operate any time soon, I wanna take my time, if I was forced to choose to revert my surgery tomorrow or never. I would choose never. I want to have hope for the long term. I want to start using strap-ons and packers amd see how I feel about it. MINIMUM would need to be 4 years.
Ok, I’m not by any means a doctor/surgeon, but I have education which covers histology and neurology in an academic context.
Peripheral nerve (not spine or brain) injuries can be healed to some extent, but it’s dependent on there being minimal scar tissue and it takes a long time so if there’s scar tissue between your clitoris and spine I believe the scar tissue would need to be removed first and I don’t know how successful it would be especially after several years.
A phaloplasty would result in a whole lot more scarring and wouldn’t really do anything for your sensitivity issues. (I’ve looked up procedural documentation and pictures of surgeries part way through for both vaginoplasty and phaloplasty) The best course of action as far as regaining sensitivity, in my opinion, would be to consult a neurologist. I think it should be possible to regain some sensitivity, but limit expectations. I don’t think the additional scar tissue from a phaloplasty would help.
If you definitely want it, I do think a phaloplasty would be possible. I just don’t think it would help your sensitivity issues. I also think it should be easier to repair the damaged vagina than try and construct a penis based on the damaged tissue. But, again you would need to consult a neurologist and a plastic surgeon.
Again I am not a surgeon.
Like I said. If I had to choose between a sensitive vagina or a non-sensitive penis. I would the latter. Obviously I would just love to go back, but whatever I get to have next, won’t be what I used to have. My traumas don’t just stem from the fact that I got no sensitivity, but it’s a part of my body reminding me that I cannot trust others. Plus I absolutely hate the idea of bottoming, there’s just nothing that seems appealing about it
Do you think the situation will change in 5 years or more time? Or will it be the same. I have no issues putting myself through experimental surgery if it means I can have erections, a nice looking foreskin and sensitivity.
Yeah a lot is already available such as erectile implants. And progress is constantly being made with reconnecting nervous tissue. But with experimental surgeries and the like, surgeons tend to want to start with an easy example so you would need to have a dialogue with a surgeon to see if you would be a good candidate.
But there are cases of penile reconstruction after a regretful vaginoplasty. But that sort of procedure is conditional on finding a skilled surgeon, the extent of the damage, political climate, the country you live in, etc etc. Just contact some surgeons and explain your situation. The worst they can do is say “I’m not going to do that, try my colleague at (insert name of hospital)”.
I’ll have a look and see what I can dig up.
I see, I appriciate it.
I’ve had some recommendations, but I can’t pay for an appointment because it’d be outside my country and my insurance would obviously not cover it, and I’m unemployed (been looking for a job for more than a year now), but I’d send any emails if I can. I will do everything in my power to investigate.
Thanks.
Bottom surgery is unfortunately not reversible in any way that I have ever heard of. I have never myself heard of anyone who had phalloplasty after vaginoplasty. You’d have to look around for a surgeon who would agree to do it, but as for what results would be like I’m not really sure. That information might be out there, I’m sure you’re not the first person to seek it out but yeah its not something I’ve ever heard much about.
The regret rate for Bottom surgery varies based on the study and the specific question asked. But overall trends show an extremely low regret rate, typically under 1%. I also dont think its a bad thing that your friends were supportive of you getting surgery. If you feel they pressured you to do it so much that you were doing it to satisfy them that’s a different thing but. People should support their friends.
It sounds like you had a lot going on in your life at the time, and still do. I’m sorry you’re struggling. I would encourage you to seek professional mental health care. You’re welcome to post about what youre going through here of course, this community is for you as well. I dont want to seem like I’m just dismissing what you’re going through entirely and like professional mental health care would magically solve everything. I know that emotional support comes from other places as well.
I’ve been through several different therapists and psychiatrist ever since surgery (and before ofc), I think on 2025 I went to 4 different psychologists and 5 different psychiatrist. I think about surgery every day of my life.
Hmmm, I had in mind that overall, regret rate for gender affirming surgeries was 1% but specifically for trans women bottom surgery, it was 2%. But my data might be outdated. It could be higher in my country where all surgeons are bussiness men who are absolute scum (Both Dimmagio and Belinky are HORRIBLE people), I don’t know, though the statistics would probably be provided by them, so oh well.
That said, I do NOT want to reverse surgery today. But in 5-10 years, maybe something will come up? Sometimes the regret eats away my soul that I want to have some sort of semblance of hope.
Sorry I revised my initial message, the regret rate does definitely vary based on study. It does tend to be much significantly lower than other more common procedures due to the efforts usually required to get access to it.
Yeah there are definitely exploitative practices at some surgical clinics. I’m fortunate to live somewhere where the entire process is highly regulated, with lots of signed paperwork and a clearly established step by step process. I know that this varies a lot around the world.
I’m sorry you feel that it eats away at you so heavily, thats awful. Phalloplasty is a surgery that I’m not admittedly super familiar with. And I think where you’re post-op vaginoplasty there are some differences there that would make the surgery unique in its own ways. I’m not sure what exists at the moment though. It would probably be hard to access, as you’ll have to find someone who would be willing to perform the operation at all. It might be worthwhile to contact some phallo surgeons and ask them what they think? Maybe try and reach out via an email or two, they might be able to give you some info.
Accessibility is not a problem in Argentina (for better or worse), even children could access it with parental consent (though this has been forbidden alongside HRT by the right, I agree on No Surgeries for minors, but HRT should be accessible for 13 years and up, atleast the hormone delayers should be). Again, anyone who shows up to a surgeon, can get operated on two years after provided they are trans because of the Gender Identity law, this sounds great! But a lot of surgeons here take advantage of it (and there can be no legal consequences on them UNLESS they fucked up the surgery terribly. They could spit on you and they would get away with it) to operate on as much people as possible to make as much money as possible. Belinky is ridiculously wealthy, a burgeois by all means and an enemy of the people.
Been trying to get in touch with phallo surgeons, one of them even has done vaginoplasty reversals. But ofc, they are all from the exterior. But none of them answer emails for anything other than academic purposes, so I have to book a virtual consult with them which costs a lot of money, and I’ve been unemployed due to the horrible state the country is due to the far right.
I’m so sorry you went through this. I have never heard of a phalloplasty following a vaginoplasty, but you should look at intersex people who were AFAB and transitioned into men. Their surgeries might be similar, though there’s probably a difference due to the disparity in time spans between the surgeries and the difference in starting genitalia.
I’m so sorry this all happened to you. AFAIK, no, a vaginoplasty is not reversible, and I would think if you haven’t got any feeling after 3 years…. That’s not coming back either.
It sounds like you have shitty friends and family, and at least a very… strange surgeon, though I’m sure things are different based on country.
I’m actually headed to get my vagina installed right now! And yes, do it because you want a vagina and do not want a penis, not to ‘be cis’.
Again, I’m so sorry internet friend, hugs and wishes you find peace :(
Belinky is absolute monster who likes to psychological torment his patients. If I had the money, I would sue him.
Surgery was 2 years ago, I was sexually abused 3 years ago amd I transitioned 4 years ago.



