• leaf@lemmy.blahaj.zonedeleted by creator
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    2 years ago

    Tankies support the more problematic empires such as Russia and China.

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      2 years ago

      What’s that behind your back? Are you hiding a pile of severed children’s hands because they didn’t harvest rubber fast enough??

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      2 years ago

      Did you not read the meme? Imperialism is bad no matter who is doing it, and arguing over which empire is more ‘problematic’ is counterproductive, as we should oppose all empires instead of wasting all of our time and effort on getting on each other’s throats.

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      2 years ago

      The vile Russian Empire, with its Romanov dynasty, super problematic. If Peter is so great, why does he look so wimpy compared to Joe Rogan? Hah, those stupid tankies don’t even realize the Chinese empire has been abolished for over 110 years!

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        2 years ago

        Sorry for being snarky… Of course modern China is an empire. Just without overseas military bases. A soft empire, one might say.

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            2 years ago

            TF you mean ‘assimilated’

            If I lease you a part of my house (AT GUNPOINT NO LESS) for 10 years am I doing an imperial aggression when I move my stuff back in afterwards?

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                2 years ago

                I’m strongly of the belief, by reading them in the context provided, that you don’t know what any of those words mean

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                  2 years ago

                  Imperialism - building an empire by exerting control over foreign powers

                  de jure - by law

                  cassus belli - cause for war

                  So conquering other places is okay when the law says you have a good reason to send soldiers marching down their streets?

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                    2 years ago

                    Okay so 2 out of 3 correct.

                    Now I guess the question is with your sanity. What the fuck are you talking about with ‘conquering’ and ‘other places’? It is literally their country. There was no war. There was no invasion.

                    You’re delusional.

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            2 years ago

            4 Chinese bases, as compared to 800 or so US bases. And what is the death toll of Chinese military interventions since the second World War? Not sure, but it certainly isn’t racking up to the millions upon millions killed by US foreign intervention. Like the other commenter is saying, don’t support nation states, good on you. But doing bothsidesism and false balances when talking about Empire is absurd. Like calling US empire ‘less problematic’ 🤡

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      2 years ago

      I wonder why a westerner who gets their news from english speaking western sources which profit off of the same wealth extraction as the empire they are part of would think like this? Surely the western free press would not be influenced by the whims of capital and empire. Obviously China and Russia must be the “worse empire”, my empire told me so!

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      2 years ago

      More problematic to whom? The US literally changed the political direction of my country and fucked us over real hard.

      Where are the chinese wars and regime change operations? At least Russia only attacks its neighbors at most so countries far away have nothing to fear, unlike the US invading and destroying countries all around the globe.

      Call them empire or whatever, but being unable to admit that the US is the bigger threat to real freedom in the world only contributes to the causes of the biggest and arguably most brutal empire in history, that is in constant state of war since it was founded.

      • random@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        More problematic to whom?

        people living under the threat of them

        Where are the chinese wars and regime change operations?

        cold war (they did the same as the us, but just lost), tibet, uigurs, taiwan, mongolia, and don’t forget their brutal mining operations in africa

        At least Russia only attacks its neighbors at most so countries far away have nothing to fear, unlike the US invading and destroying countries all around the globe.

        but in return the us only conqueres nations far away from them (at least in the last 100 years), also that’s not really better, russia got a lot of neighbors

        the US is the bigger threat to real freedom in the world

        imo, it purely depends on the region you’re looking on

        most brutal empire in history

        historically britain outcompetes them imo, but in the 20th century, yes they were, now I’d say china tho, just look at their actions in africa, they’re kinda repeating briyish history there

        but it’s nice, that you have manners and don’t want to ban everyone disagreeing with you like some on grad

    • You’re just repeating the meme.

      They are all bad, they are all part of the problems we face globally, and whatabouting “them” to avoid facing criticism of “us” only serves those in power by deflecting criticism of them.

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      2 years ago

      And in doing so they may have pushed large parts of the Chinese-American community to the right. Tankies caping for the CCP were not a good look for the moderate immigrants who had been fucked over by the Chinese government in various ways.