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The post Xitter web has spawned so many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)


I have mixed feelings about this one: The Enclosure feedback loop (or how LLMs sabotage existing programming practices by privatizing a public good).
The author is right that stack overflow has basically shrivelled up and died, and that llm vendors are trying to replace it with private sources of data theyāll never freely share with the rest of us, but I donāt think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way āhigh quality dataā. The number of occasions when a chatbot-user actually introduces genuinely useful and novel information will be low, and the ability of chatbot companies to even detect that circumstance will be lower still. It isnāt enclosing valuable commons, it is squirting sealant around all the doors so the automated fart-huffing system and its audience canāt get any fresh air.
Yeah, Gas Town is being belabored to death, but it must be reiterated that I doubt the long-term value proposition of āKubernetes fan fictionā
I also didnāt find the argument very persuasive.
The LLM companies arenāt paying anythnig for content. Why should they stop scraping now?
Oh, they wonāt. Itās just that theyāve already killed the golden goose, and no-one is breeding new ones, and they need an awful lot of gold still.