• spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    And allow the American Nazi Party (but Blue) to run rampant on people and their rights

    BoTh SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE arguments are why people don’t take you seriously. It’s almost hilarious how arguments like this devalue just how awful the right is, when you’re comparing concrete domestic trans, POC and intellectual attacks from a party that supports Israel to the party that just supporta Israel.

    I would laugh if I was sure you didn’t actually drink the flavoraide.

    • ZeroHora@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      4 days ago

      when you’re comparing concrete domestic trans, POC and intellectual attacks from a party that supports Israel to the party that just supporta Israel.

      just supports Israel. Oh boy.

      People in Gaza has so less value for you than the American citizen?

      • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        12·
        4 days ago

        People in Gaza has so less value for you than the American citizen?

        Of course I care about the Gazan people, that’s why I didn’t want the “glass them all” party to win. But because they’re not good, we let fucking awful go for it instead. One side has a chance to be reasoned with, and the other is no chance in hell. Inaction chose the no chance in hell option.

        I’m not going to lie and say there was a good choice available. But we chose greater violence while preaching for no violence. So I don’t know what to tell you, other than sometimes you have to compromise to engage in harm mitigation otherwise you can end up with harm maximization.

        • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          that’s why I didn’t want the “glass them all” party to win.

          The Democracy are also that party.

          they’re not good

          Actively genocidal is more than just not good. I should even go so far as to call them “fucking hell”.

          One side has a chance to be reasoned with, and the other is no chance in hell. Inaction chose the no chance in hell option.

          Anthony Blinken and the Democrats are the no chance in hell option. They spent over a year proving it! They would rather lose the election then stop doing genocide. At least Trump is so mercurial and narcissistic that an Arab leader flattering him or an Israeli politician being rude sometimes makes him break from Israel a bit.

          But we chose greater violence

          No, you didn’t. You just chose the one that doesn’t bother to mask it.

          to engage in harm mitigation otherwise you can end up with harm maximization.

          But that doesn’t mean much coming from someone who cannot properly assess the harm that the two options are doing. It seems that every “lesser evil” advocate ends up having to white wash the Democrats to justify their position. Apparently even they can’t justify voting for the actual Democrats as they really are.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      4 days ago

      I don’t think you can talk about other people devaluing how awful things are when you’re trying to pass off “actively participating in the most brutal genocide of the era” as “not perfect”. Also when you’re trying to say that only the lives of domestic citizens are “concrete”, it really sounds like you just don’t consider foreigners fully human. The democrats absolutely support killing trans people, PoCs, and intellectuals, they just support doing it in Gaza. The number of people being killed domestically by the right, as terrible as it is, is not even a rounding error compared to the number of people, even just LGBT people, being killed in Gaza as a bipartisan policy. And yet only the lives of the first matter, and caring about the lives of the latter is “drinking the flavour aid”