• PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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    Explanation: The Romans, counterintuitively to modern Western norms, found the public toilets a place for socialization - a great place to have a painful shit, play a game of tic-tac-toe between the seats, make some connections - maybe even, as one satire of the 1st century AD mocks a man, get a nice dinner invitation if you chat up enough shitters! You’ve emptied your bowels - why not ensure that they will soon be refilled?

    In omnibus Vacerra quod conclavibus

    Consumit horas et die toto sedet,

    Cenaturit Vacerra , non cacaturit.

    Epigrams, Book 11, Epigram 77

    A poetic translation being given as

    In privies Vacerra consumes the hours;

    the whole day does he sit;

    Vacerra wants to dine,

    he does not want to shit

    There are also such curiosities as tic-tac-toe boards carved between seats, remains of game boards built into the toilets and game pieces left lodged in hard-to-reach places, and various means of ‘comfort’ such as fountains and mosaics, with ‘higher quality’ public toilets charging a fee for entry. Wouldn’t want to shit with the poors, now! Less relevantly to the notion of socialization, but related to the modern day, there’s also considerable evidence for graffiti in the public toilets (including spreading nasty rumors about one’s enemies!). More broadly, there are numerous discussions in Roman literature of matters we would regard as, uh, somewhat private, such as the notion of a slave holding his master’s chamber pot while he takes a piss, or casual discussion of constipation at the dinner table.

    The past is a funny place!

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      Archeology revealed from those toilets that most Roman’s had intestinal parasites. They used feces to fertilize fields outside of Rome, but never treated the feces first. Everyone had parasites.

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        Oh yeah, parasite intestinal loads found in Roman waste are massive. It’s widely considered that their consumption of fermented fish sauce and dumping of waste into waterways spread Mediterranean fish parasites to the North Atlantic, lol.

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        You might enjoy this; I remember recounting on here once before about a construction incident in Victorian-era Britain. London, I think.

        In the incident, a dilapidated (even by 19th century standards) apartment building was demolished to make way for a new, slightly less horrific building. But when they tried to start construction, they realized that so much human waste had been dumped in the immediate vicinity of the building that the soil was basically just shit-mush, and they had to replace the literal ground before they could lay the new foundations.