Hm, !privacy@programming.dev is already the next off-world comm in MAUs and is just shy of the .world version

I’d say just go with the flow lol

It’s by Sako Asko, https://www.instagram.com/sakoasko but the original doesn’t have any words to it, it looks just like a template already lol

It’s the artist’s thing, they also made the crying guy in shallow water meme

I…I need the template for that meme :o

Drumpy has been promoting their brand new “rapidly assembled” ICE “detention facility” (read: concentration camp) that they (themselves) nicknamed “Alligator Alcatraz” in the middle of the Florida Everglades (middle-of-no-where swamp land)

I hope all their kids/grandkids see this and never talk to them again, at the minimum

I frequently encounter Kuato, that user is an ardent supporter/defender of the Triad lol

However, it seems like it would limit the influence of that instance if they were to be honest about application of that label so… they refuse.

That’s what it’s all about, they want to spread their “message” and they take whatever steps needed to make their authoritarian “principles” hidden. Even their “What is Lemmy.ml” link in the side bar leads to a post that makes no mention of their politics, ideologies or the kind of content they truly allow. Just that it’s a “niche” instance lol

I wish that I could praise the Lemmy devs for the good they have done, even while also criticizing them for the bad. However, the more that I learn the less ah… “compatible” with democratic principles their authoritarian actions seem to me.

I feel the same, it’s hard to praise their good work, when there’s just so much…bad vibes surrounding it.

Is also the only general instance of note to do so, I love it for it, but it doesn’t make enough of a statement to the outside rep of the Threadiverse to make a damn for growth purposes. And I don’t think the admin of .cafe has the resources to scale either, not like .world does so it’s not like we can just massively dump newcomers to it either

You don’t need to “jack rabbit” out, but you shouldn’t be moving like a sloth either, every second of delay delays all other cars behind you and reduces overall traffic flow

Your analogy doesn’t work because nobody is talking about shutting their instances down or “taking them over” they are free to have their space and network with aligned instances.

But the rest of the network is also not obligated to federate with them and allow their misinformation to spread.

Thanks, yea I know my solutions are far from perfect, but its the best I could come up with from what a “regular user” could do.

Lemmy’s source code problem is a multifaceted issue. Some of it, I’m sure is done intentionally like how blocks barely function as a mute (Remember when Xitter threatened to downgrade their proper blocking to essentially what Lemmy has now? People were up in arms over it, but dessalines does it and not much more the murmurs about it) or like you said how the modlog doesn’t display the mod/admin who did it anymore (though it’s still available on certain UIs, like photon.lemmy.world/modlog so it’s still leagues better than what Reddit has)

But then some of it, like removed posts pointlessly linking in the modlog to something that won’t and will never pull up, not sure if it was done with ill intent or just a bug. After all, Rust is a fairly difficult language which leads to slow development and not a whole lot of open source devs focusing on it.

But then, that’s the crux of the issue isn’t it, because of their politics and behaviors nobody can be really sure whats just a bug or flaw that just hasn’t been dealt with yet or done with malicious intent to benefit their own political goals

In any case, Lemmy is going to be an albatross around the Thrediverse for years, for as long as there’s continued wide federation with the Triad. I think the wider Fediverse will be mostly fine because Mastodon et all will be unique enough to the average user.

But I want to see the Threadiverse grow to take on Reddit one day. And to do that we need to take care of the Tankie problem

Like I did in making a petition to defederate hexbear from Discuss.Online, perhaps you would like to petition PieFed.social to defederate Lemmy.ml? Lemmy.World never will, and likely discuss.online and all the others too, because of the software considerations - although PieFed.World might? (it has not yet: I still see lemmy.ml communities listed on it) You would be a good person to list out the references and make a cogent argument for the need to do so? !piefed_meta@piefed.social might be the best place to send it.

Oh don’t worry, I’ve got things cooking, I just don’t have unlimited time to dedicate to it. But things are in the pipeline rest assured :)

Maybe, I’ll ponder it, maybe experiment a bit. But I have not achieved my goals yet, so it’s too early to end it out right

I personally blocked literally all users from lemmy.ml 9 months ago - going so far as to move to PieFed where I could actually accomplish that aim - and I have enjoyed the Threadiverse much better since then! :-) We’ll be fine then, methinks.

Just blocking .ml on an individual basis, while good for individuals to not see their crap, doesn’t really fix the problem. The continued spread of misinformation and attempts to enforce the narrative as “truth” by making it appear as though there’s no dissent about it (on .ml).

This is harming the overall growth of the Threadiverse IMHO. New users come, aren’t aware they need to block .ml and miss the threads talking about it, and then get scared off when inevitably they start going on one of their rants about how NK isn’t a dictatorship. Or maybe they never come back after commenting in support of Ukraine or something (Which they continue to push the Russia narrative is being entirely run by “Nazis” and Russia was justified to invade), get dunked on and then catch a ban for it.

Russia has been talked about for having mis/disinformation campaigns for the purpose of furthering their goals for at least a decade now. We should not be a party to allowing that to spread. And I see a crap ton of various untrustworthy news sites they pass off as highly credible and will viciously defend it and censor anyone who calls it out.

I mean sure, except there is no automation lmao it’s all done manually by human hands

Lol, I already have

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RFE/RL

Additional considerations apply to the use of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL). RFE/RL should be used cautiously, if at all, for reporting published from the 1950s to the early 1970s, when RFE/RL had a documented relationship with the CIA.

RFE/RL may be biased in some subject areas (particularly through omission of relevant, countervailing facts), and in those areas, it should be attributed in the article body. There is no consensus as to what subject areas require attribution. The scope of topics requiring attribution of RFE/RL should be decided on a case-by-case basis.

It hasn’t been true for some time now and is generally found to be credible and fairly unbiased and RFA is seen in even a more positive light:

Radio Free Asia can be generally considered a reliable source. In particularly geopolitically charged areas, attribution of its point of view and funding by the U.S. government may be appropriate. Per the result of a 2021 RfC, editors have established that there is little reason to think RFA demonstrates some systematic inaccuracy, unreliability, or level of government co-option that precludes its use.

And MBFC:

In contrast this is what RT looks like:

Radio Free [Region] is literally a mouthpiece of blatant western imperialist

Ok prove it then, surely something so widely known and “blatant” to be an outlet for misinformation would have numerous online, credible, sources with their evidence

Radio Free [Region] is a perfectly credible news source that does a fair job of minimizing bias

In any case, bias != Mis/Disinformation. They’re vastly different beasts. One just tries to subtly write things in a way that makes the reader favor their position the other is just straight lies and made up conspiracy theories to force a certain narrative among the populace

I’m hoping that !meshtastic@mander.xyz will need to a rebirth of that sort lol

Instance blocks are nothing more than a comm mute, even if it worked as one would expect, it does nothing to stop them from spreading their toxic misinformation and propaganda to unknowing new users.

And downvoting to oblivion is not something to be relied upon, IME only obvious ones get downvoted like RT or ones with headlines like “UKRAINE WILL FAIL SOON SUPERIOR RUSSIA…”

Subtler disinformation, from lesser known sources, can still end up with positive upvotes and is just as dangerous

That doesn’t sound unusual, it’s probably the heat they wanted

is like ‘burning the Library of Congress’

Don’t fucking give them any ideas

You’re right, but also taking together their comment history, we can reasonably assume that they chose their username with the intent to slur rather than as a more benign meaning.