So you think a ship that was moving at maybe 5 knots/hr instantly turned around and in less than 30 minutes accelerated past 50 knots/hr?

Would.

One can assume they’re drawing from current material conditions, and not meaning to disparage the theoretical platonic form of ‘laws;’ specifically the fact that it doesn’t matter which country you pick (with few exceptions that do try their best), under capitalism those with capital statistically make the laws, and specifically make them to bind the working class while not expecting them to ever affect themselves.

Now one could argue all laws that could possibly exist do this to some extent. And some people would think you’re correct, but realistically the word society is synonymous with rules, which itself is synonymous with laws, so no one seriously believes that any group of more than one person would exist without some level of legality; though that last line itself is incredibly contentious given the hang up some people have on 'if there are laws then surely there must be a state to enact and enforce them – and to those people I say actually read your literature, either anarchism or communism.

Donald Trump violently raped his ex-wife because his hair plugs hurt. She was bruised for days, according to her book.

He saw no jail time. Not even a charge.

Not one Epstein Client has seen jail time.

The vast majority of cases against the Affluent fail to secure jail time, if they’re even brought at all.

In many cases it is not that the laws are written in a way that precludes prosecution, however they are written in a way knowing it is unlikely to ever bring prosecution against those in the Epstein class.

Code was in use relating to the set of instructions used to control a computer in 1946; with it becoming a verb by 1986. Programming was from 1945 as a first use in regards to computers; meaning "cause to be automatically regulated in a prescribed way.

Now the funny thing is the noun ‘Program’ in regards to computers in 1945 meant “series of coded instructions which directs a computer in carrying out a specific task”

So if we really work through the etymology a bit, coded instructions was first, then Program/ming, then Code and coding; though certainly ‘encoding’ would have been used before programming given the definition of ‘coded instructions.’

So… Blame Ada Lovelace for not coming up with something catchy like ‘lacing’ which would have been far more camp (and much more accurate to the gender of early programmers).

As the current admin is a touchy subject for you people, let us take a quick, objective look back at a simpler time.

What was materially different for the average person in the George W. Bush administration vs the Barack Obama administration?

Was it worker’s rights? No, not really, both presidents gorged themselves on union busting. While the minimum wage did get raised once, technically during Obama’s term (though the legislation passed during W’s admin) neither president advocated for this; and both parties actually fought heavily against this increase at the time while only relenting as a way to offset Bill Clinton’s 2008 Financial Crisis.. Don’t get me wrong with that last quip, Republicans had plenty to do with it, but lets not forget Clinton signed it, and democrats largely stamped it.

Was it… quality of life? No, not really. If anything Obama made life worse for the average American. with wealth inequality soaring at the fastest rate in human history, not just American history, until the pandemic at least. I wonder why that period had such a high jump.

Was it… immigrants rights? No. Obama was the deporter-in-chief, even under the best interpretations, whose numbers have yet to be matched and had only one significant rival in world history. Oh but DACA was good right? Oh wait wrong link, sorry. Don’t get me wrong Trump is harsher in this regard… in that white people can now be victims. Nothing Trump has done is new.

How about foreign policy? … Nope. We know the answer to that. Don’t even need links do we. Obama’s legacy of violence showed the world the US does not avoid civilian deaths, in fact we explicitly, wantonly target civilians. Many in the world knew this already, after all exporting violence is what the US is known for outside the west, but Obama made it clear that George W Bush was not a fluke. Republicans were not the source of violence. It was the US itself that was violent.

Gas prices were lower. Sometimes. Under Obama. And food was cheaper. Under Bush. Same amount of insider trading regardless, same corrupt cabinets, same donors to both presidential campaigns, practically the same appointees…

It really does go on. But I’m bored and you probably have other replies expanding on this by now.

Oh hey, anthropology questions on a primarily western instance filled with Americans and Europeans, this will end well.

Simple answer: It heavily depends on the region and time period, there were periods of equality and periods of great inequality in every area of the – it was Greece. and the Germanic tribes that eventually formed Rome. That is the reason why it is prevalent in western culture as a meme, as well as anywhere western culture colonized.

Complex Answer:

Women have historically been equal to men or held in higher positions of power than men for most of human history. In early human societies (and intact uncontacted societies today, from observation) there was no clear sexual hierarchy, so we can conclude it didn’t really start there. From western development we see women in equal roles in pre-dynastic Egypt and across multiple middle eastern areas. While some greek tribes (and for that matter some germanic tribes) did have women in spiritual or leadership roles, this was incredibly uncommon and as ‘European’ culture became the ‘civilized’ culture, women took on a much more subservient, lesser role in society; as they saw the male form as more capable.

As one culture and viewpoint started to dominate, it started to leak in and infect practically every aspect of society. Early Catholicism and christianity, for instance, had women as equals, though the church lost that idea by the 9th century. By the 19th century when we see modern women’s liberation movements, a fully patriarchal society had developed which was incredibly domineering and widespread. Thanks to colonization by western European powers.

While it’s cute you’re repeating your masters’ words; tankie has no actual meaning or definition so it’s not really an insult. My joke was directed specifically at you people, who have been victim of a multi-hundred billion dollar campaign to completely eliminate all critical thought against enemies of your masters.

Obviously no state is ideal. However if a state did occur that was a threat to capital, how exactly do you think capital would respond? Exactly how your masters have responded. The extreme instant disregard for all facts that could contradict your programming is the exact reaction your masters have spent hundreds of billions instilling, just so you keep doing whatever they want, without getting any real positive change in your life.

Corrupt fascist pedophile billionaires actually did and do actively cheat to get into power. Any Rothschild wields more power than Trump; and billionaires actively bribe all ‘seats’ of power to make sure your vote does not matter, period. In times where lobbying doesn’t get them enough power, or they’re bored, they just buy their way into office. This isn’t just in the US, it’s everywhere with ‘liberal western democracy.’.

Because ‘democracy’ under capitalism cannot function. It has never functioned. It will never function.[1]

Calling people ‘tankies’ and ‘fascists pretending to be anarchists’ does nothing to change these acts. And it does nothing to work towards the nearly universal goals of the working class; goals you and every ‘tankie’ you criticize share.

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Reread my comments and try again.

No jokes making fun of lemmy users allowed I guess.

The UK truly is one of the biggest jokes of a country.

I was talking about Mussolini.

The spanish premier is a tankie?11/!!/1?

That’s nice, and genuinely good for you if that’s your calling, but that is something you choose, not something that you need to do. Again the total number of people on the planet contributing practically 100% of the food grown for sale is 2%. Down from 98% less than two centuries ago.

The reason people are able to do things other than farm for 6-9 months out of the year, is because productivity in that field is so incredibly high we can feed the world off the labor of 2 people in a hundred. And this is already, currently, true for nearly all production fields. A single textile worker produces more textiles than a 1,000 could have a century ago. Similar increases in productivity are true for nearly every field save for incredibly niche (but still important) industries.

Automation is just going to keep increasing this over time. We will never completely eliminate human labor, at least not while we resemble anything close to human, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have already dropped the 40 hour work week down to 10 hours (we’d still have more production than at any point in human history) and that doesn’t mean we can’t strive to eliminate work to the furthest extent possible so we can actually enjoy life; even if that enjoyment for people like you is spending your time farming manually.

You’re right that I’m relatively hostile and in general this platform breeds hostility due to the ideological differences between those that created and originally populated the platform, and reddit ‘refugees’ that disagree with reddit’s management but not the far-right ideologies so ever present in all aspects of that website (fostered of course by bots). Those with your viewpoint tend not to want to learn, and instead decide anyone to the left of burning orphans for warmth is a ‘tankie.’ That’s not fair to you.

To clarify, you have a transactional worldview, you assume that in order to exist, one must be useful to society. This incidentally narrows down the number of countries you could be from, as it’s not actually a common idea. Protestants, and generally former global empires are the two places you’ll see this so readily codified into the public conscious to be fed down to a general idea of jealousy of your fellow worker; i.e. you believe that all things must be earned, and if you feel someone is getting something that by your estimation they have not earned, you feel slighted.

This is a greedy and self-interested idea, but can be worked with until you limit the essentials. So I’d like to refocus on that.

In a normal human household, for nearly all of human history and human present, in nearly all cultures and societies that have ever existed, the family dynamic is the one least commonly likely to be transactional. You wouldn’t keep food away from your child if they failed to do a chore, you wouldn’t take medicine away from your grandparents because they are too sick to sweep up, you wouldn’t stop showing affection towards your lover just because the dishes weren’t done. This is a non-transactional relationship. Everyone gets what they need, unconditionally. Now luxuries, that might be withheld; that might entirely be absent; that might be a reward for hard work – but the essentials everyone gets, even if they come at great personal loss.

Now, one might say, that is just family, and that could not work beyond that unit – again we look at history and the present. In most societies, in most cultures, in most of human history the ‘family’ and the ‘village’ had little differences beyond who is a possible (and societally acceptable) mate. Human behavioral biology (free course btw) is an interesting field that shows us that we didn’t evolve to protect the clan, those related to us; we evolved to protect everyone we saw as a tribe – including those not genetically related to us. How and why would evolution do that? What possible ‘survival of the fittest’ category could that fulfill? In short (but seriously watch the course) when we take care of others, and others take care of us, we all prosper and are more likely to pass on our genes. When we compete we are less likely to pass on our genes. Because competition narrows both the genetic field and makes it harder for those that survive the competition to continue surviving. We are not polar bears who can go off independently for half our adult lives and come back only to mate; we are weak tribal apes that have evolved to rely on each other.

Now… that background out of the way;

Imagine a world where we extend that family unit. We extend that tribe. We have an essential set of things that all humans are entitled to, that we all work to fulfill. Luxuries, again, may be withheld or rewarded, but not food, water, shelter, or any of the necessary items we all have come to rely on.

But, you will likely say, what if someone is greedy? – Greed is primarily a learned trait, although there is a clear genetic component, most people are not greedy. Those that are, we could treat like we treat any other person that breaks the social contract; i.e. education, imprisonment, or similar corrective action.

But, you might ask, how do we know who is actually contributing? – And I ask, why does that actually matter? To alay this concern I would point to the mountain of evidence that people want to work, especially when they are not alienated from the effects of their work; but I would still ask why does it matter? Does your toddler need to work in order to eat? Does your grandmother? Again we should be extending the idea of the tribe beyond our immediate web of connections, and that requires trust. And through research we can see the trust will always statistically be well placed.

But, you might ask, how do people get rewarded for their work? What’s the incentive? – The incentive, primarily, is the same incentive a mother has to clean up a spill or a child has to help their sibling with homework. Not love or anything so immeasurable – but good will, the direct understanding of the good that work does, and the satisfaction of knowing you made a positive change in your environment. Now that’s not to say there can’t be other rewards. Not every job has someone that wants to do it (though we’ve all seen enough kink videos to know most every job has someone way too into doing it that they’d do it for free), and maybe there can be additional incentive structures for luxuries; but the goal would be through education and showing people the direct positive results of their actions that everyone helps how they can, when they can, as much as they can.

But, you might ask, about those that are genetically greedy, those that would ‘take advantage’ and try to hoard wealth? Well my friend, there are a myriad of solutions for that, again from education and imprisonment, to the good ol’ French Micro Press.. Setting up a trust-based, family-oriented (actually family oriented) society means there are still rules, and those that would tear down society for their own gain would be on the level of murderers and child molesters.

• Not directly linked but the ideas referenced throughout:

Crash Course, What is socialism?

The Communist Manifesto

Plato’s The Republic

It’s better than pretending that repeating history and failed ideas will magically generate a different outcome. Pretending that we can ‘fix’ capitalism with more regulations or more reforms is silly when there has never been a successful capitalist country in history.

They, at best, have to adopt socialist-adjacent policies paid for by the explicit rape of slave countries and colonies just to survive a few more decades; with no actual plans for what happens if those colonies throw off their chains or how to ever stop exploiting people to survive.

I did not ‘gloss over’ actual fascists, I’m simply not a naive optimist that believes repeating history is going to result in a different outcome.

The fact you think a single person runs a movement or ideology shows you have no possible inkling of an idea of what you’re talking about. The Nazis didn’t die off because Hitler (appointed by a liberal btw) killed himself. They didn’t die off period. Regardless of their furher.

When trump dies or loses favor, his movement will 100% still be active and a domineering force in the US.

When Orban gets out of office, if he leaves peacefully, his movement will still be in office across the country and still have outsized political influence resulting it being ‘politically unsafe’ to undo most of his damage.

This is true no matter the fascist. For fuck’s sake Italy elected a fascist party candidate relative of Mussolini – specifically because it’s not ‘hero worship’ that defines fascism.

Until you understand the mechanisms and causes of fascism you will be doomed to repeat the cycle of liberalism -> fascism -> liberalism. Forever, or at least until a strong enough communist uprising happens and kicks out the fascists.

That’s nice kiddo. Statistics do not lie. Period. The sole reason you and everyone you have ever or will ever know is not a farmer, is exclusively because of mechanization and automation. The reason you have clothes that do not cost a month’s pay check is exclusively because of mechanization and automation. The reason you have the technology to type this sentiment on is because of mechanization and automation.